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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 1782712" data-attributes="member: 6777"><p>Tweet points out that the real ancestor of the PrC is the Rune Lord and Rune Priest from <em>Runequest</em> (1978). Though a classless system, both of these were basically "prestige" roles that required a PC meet certain prerequisites (both mechanically and RP) before entering.</p><p></p><p>However, according to Tweet, it was Monte who actually came up with the PrC concept, so there may be a RM connection.</p><p></p><p>And, not to be snarky, but I'm hesitant to credit RM with much influence, simply because I remember when RM was basically a set of rules-add-ons for AD&D, and that the basic "model" of RM is the D&D model. Most of what RM could contribute can possibly be seen as nascent in D&D to begin with.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention, the basic mechanic behind d20 --d20+mods >= target number-- is basically how combat has been resolved in D&D since 1974. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>d20 draws on a lot of influences in a lot of major and minor ways. Pointing to any one system and claiming d20 is somehow a "ripoff" (something I often see people doing with their pet system of choice) is pretty silly, IMO. d20 seems to simply have found (or at least resemble) a lot of good ideas from all over the place and combined them into an excellent whole.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buzz, post: 1782712, member: 6777"] Tweet points out that the real ancestor of the PrC is the Rune Lord and Rune Priest from [i]Runequest[/i] (1978). Though a classless system, both of these were basically "prestige" roles that required a PC meet certain prerequisites (both mechanically and RP) before entering. However, according to Tweet, it was Monte who actually came up with the PrC concept, so there may be a RM connection. And, not to be snarky, but I'm hesitant to credit RM with much influence, simply because I remember when RM was basically a set of rules-add-ons for AD&D, and that the basic "model" of RM is the D&D model. Most of what RM could contribute can possibly be seen as nascent in D&D to begin with. Not to mention, the basic mechanic behind d20 --d20+mods >= target number-- is basically how combat has been resolved in D&D since 1974. :) d20 draws on a lot of influences in a lot of major and minor ways. Pointing to any one system and claiming d20 is somehow a "ripoff" (something I often see people doing with their pet system of choice) is pretty silly, IMO. d20 seems to simply have found (or at least resemble) a lot of good ideas from all over the place and combined them into an excellent whole. [/QUOTE]
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