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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 7262193">The Earth is some 4.5 billion years old.&nbsp; You don't think something beat it to the punch?&nbsp; I'm fairly certain that there are planets that are older than Earth.&nbsp; So logically, in a universe where the first caveat is &quot;we are not alone&quot;, other things have come into existence before the earth.&nbsp; Likewise, in a setting where there is a &quot;multiverse&quot; some universes may be older, younger, or followed different developmental tracks than our own did.&nbsp; The powerful beings could simply be beings that arose before those on the campaign world did, or they may be multi-dimensional travelers.&nbsp; An &quot;origin&quot; doesn't need to have a foolproof answer, I'd rather leave it open ended to the question of &quot;did a god do it&quot; or &quot;was it simply nature&quot;.&nbsp; That's not a wrong answer to the question of &quot;where did it all come from&quot;.I'm...not entirely sure you're being genuine here.&nbsp; It sounds like you're trying to draw me into an origins of life debate.&nbsp; I'm not going to play because the scientific consensus on the subject is fairly clear.&nbsp; You know what I'm talking about.&nbsp; Primordial soup, building blocks of life, evolution, all that.&nbsp; I kept my post brief because I wanted to post briefly on the subject.&nbsp; I did not feel particularly compelled to write out the entire details of my world since it is, as you point out below, rather uninteresting.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; There's energy in our universe isn't there?&nbsp; &quot;Magic&quot; as the lay-people call it, is just about having the right connection or the right code phrases to shape that energy to your needs.&nbsp; &quot;Divine&quot; magic is that same energy filtered through your deity before it gets to you.&nbsp; &quot;Arcane&quot; magic is you playing with the raw energy of the universe.&nbsp; And?&nbsp;&nbsp; My decision to use this approach is simply for my own benefit.&nbsp; The players will not deal with this information till they're at incredibly high levels.&nbsp; So the fact that it doesn't &quot;add anything&quot; is fine, it's not supposed to add anything.&nbsp; It simply is for ease of reference.&nbsp; My fantasy worlds work like real life...with some magic.&nbsp; Great, feel free to use it.&nbsp; After reading this, I think we're talking about two different concepts about what an &quot;origin&quot; means.&nbsp; Beyond that, a good origin story has some blanks in it.&nbsp; If everything about the origination of the universe was perfectly clear and cut and dry, noone would ever investigate it!In my setting like real life, different cultures, different species, different religions all have different ideas about how the universe came to be, because in part they lack the appropriate level of science to find out the absolute truth (as to we) and because many powerful creatures run around claiming responsibility for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 7262193"] The Earth is some 4.5 billion years old. You don't think something beat it to the punch? I'm fairly certain that there are planets that are older than Earth. So logically, in a universe where the first caveat is "we are not alone", [I]other[/I] things have come into existence before the earth. Likewise, in a setting where there is a "multiverse" some universes may be older, younger, or followed different developmental tracks than our own did. The powerful beings could simply be beings that arose before those on the campaign world did, or they may be multi-dimensional travelers. An "origin" doesn't need to have a foolproof answer, I'd rather leave it open ended to the question of "did a god do it" or "was it simply nature". That's not a wrong answer to the question of "where did it all come from". I'm...not entirely sure you're being genuine here. It sounds like you're trying to draw me into an origins of life debate. I'm not going to play because the scientific consensus on the subject is fairly clear. You [I]know[/I] what I'm talking about. Primordial soup, building blocks of life, evolution, all that. I kept my post brief because I wanted to post briefly on the subject. I did not feel particularly compelled to write out the [I]entire[/I] details of my world since it is, as you point out below, rather uninteresting. Why? There's energy in our universe isn't there? "Magic" as the lay-people call it, is just about having the right connection or the right code phrases to shape that energy to your needs. "Divine" magic is that same energy filtered through your deity before it gets to you. "Arcane" magic is you playing with the raw energy of the universe. And? My decision to use this approach is simply for my own benefit. The players will not deal with this information till they're at incredibly high levels. So the fact that it doesn't "add anything" is fine, it's not supposed to add anything. It simply [I]is[/I] for ease of reference. My fantasy worlds work like real life...with some magic. Great, feel free to use it. After reading this, I think we're talking about two different concepts about what an "origin" means. Beyond that, a good origin story has some blanks in it. If everything about the origination of the universe was perfectly clear and cut and dry, noone would ever investigate it! In my setting like real life, different cultures, different species, different religions all have different ideas about how the universe came to be, because in part they lack the appropriate level of science to find out the absolute truth (as to we) and because many powerful creatures run around claiming responsibility for it. [/QUOTE]

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