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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 7784994" data-attributes="member: 40359">Also, I was curious and did a little digging into what they meant by "user selection data" as well as wondering whether percentage drops in Pathfinder were overall lowering in the number of games & players, or whether there was just larger growth in D&D 5e, for example. It is not a different counting method, but an entirely different data collection method. (AKA They aren't parsing the data differently, they are looking at entirely different data.) Previously, it was just relatively small sample sizes based on if a user set "Games I enjoy playing" and the "Games I'm looking for" fields in their profile, as well as if Campaigns set the game they are playing field. All of which are not required, and are primarily used for Roll20's "Looking for Games" system.(I know I never set those fields. Considering the relatively small sample sizes in previous reports, it looks like the vast majority didn't either.)Their current method of looking at what all users are actually using (especially if they can account for inactive games) is FAR better than what they used before, but also, unfortunately, comparing this report to previous ones is maybe not apples & oranges, but at least apples & pears. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />So the previous data was heavily skewed towards the subset of players & DMs that are looking for games on Roll20, and largely excluded those who set up a Roll20 game with people they already knew. So some (or most? or none?? or all???) of the shift between previous reports and this one could also be explained by differences between those data collection methods looking at different populations.Call of Cthulhu could have grown in popularity. Or maybe Call of Cthulhu players tends to already know each other and aren't looking for games with strangers as often in Roll20's Looking For Games system. Could be the opposite with Pathfinder - maybe they are more likely to be "Looking for Games" than other systems.Also, it would be nice if they included the actual data sizes. Previously they had sample size counts (but those were just self-selected subset of users, so wasn't real useful), but now it's just "4 million+ accounts." So it's impossible to tell, for example, whether Pathfinder actually declined or possibly grew but just at a slower rate than others (or changed due to the difference in data collection methods mentioned above). So even if the percentage dropped, the actual number of players & games might be lower, higher, or the same. There's no way to tell.</blockquote>

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