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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 8697044" data-attributes="member: 58416"><p>As others have said, I have mixed feelings about the episode.</p><p></p><p>The diplomacy mission was a low-point for the writing. The only thing which came out of it was a joke about women taking too many bags on vacation, and Mercer turning down the Kirk method of solving problems.</p><p></p><p>"Solving" the cultural issue by having Kelly turn her cheating into a positive seemed weird to me. "Finding common ground" by way of being an unfaithful and manipulative romantic partner was weird. I'm not exactly sure what message the show was trying to get across but I don't think it worked.</p><p></p><p>The stuff with Talla and John was interesting. As was said by someone else above, it's an aspect of interspecies relationships which is never mentioned in other shows.</p><p></p><p>I understand why effort was made to fill in the Kaylon backstory. For one episode, it was nice to see more. But I think something was lost concerning the series as a whole by removing some of the mystery. I feel that something like the weight of the Kaylon backstory should have been used for something more meaningful to the in-show plot than providing social commentary on corporate greed.</p><p></p><p>I'm not disputing whether corporate greed exists. Narratively, I question whether or not that's a big enough reason to humanize the murder-bot hivemind antagonist around which much of the show is written. The reveal that newer Kaylon (like Issac) are incapable of sustained emotions was an attempt to walk that back, but I still think it removes some amount of menace from the Kaylon.</p><p></p><p>The episode feels out of sync with the rest of the show. Having it come right after so many good episodes in a row makes it more noticeable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 8697044, member: 58416"] As others have said, I have mixed feelings about the episode. The diplomacy mission was a low-point for the writing. The only thing which came out of it was a joke about women taking too many bags on vacation, and Mercer turning down the Kirk method of solving problems. "Solving" the cultural issue by having Kelly turn her cheating into a positive seemed weird to me. "Finding common ground" by way of being an unfaithful and manipulative romantic partner was weird. I'm not exactly sure what message the show was trying to get across but I don't think it worked. The stuff with Talla and John was interesting. As was said by someone else above, it's an aspect of interspecies relationships which is never mentioned in other shows. I understand why effort was made to fill in the Kaylon backstory. For one episode, it was nice to see more. But I think something was lost concerning the series as a whole by removing some of the mystery. I feel that something like the weight of the Kaylon backstory should have been used for something more meaningful to the in-show plot than providing social commentary on corporate greed. I'm not disputing whether corporate greed exists. Narratively, I question whether or not that's a big enough reason to humanize the murder-bot hivemind antagonist around which much of the show is written. The reveal that newer Kaylon (like Issac) are incapable of sustained emotions was an attempt to walk that back, but I still think it removes some amount of menace from the Kaylon. The episode feels out of sync with the rest of the show. Having it come right after so many good episodes in a row makes it more noticeable. [/QUOTE]
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