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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8703207" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Yeah but that's the problem....its really hard to debate morality and compare it to this situation when the stakes we have dealt with as a species are pretty low in comparison to "our entire planet gets wiped out".</p><p></p><p>It always urkes me in those movies where the protagonists are like, "this might save humanity, but if we lose our humanity, is it really worth it?" And I always want to scream at the tv, "um yes you idiot it absolutely is!".</p><p></p><p>I think most people if faced with the idea that their children and their children's children, and all the child to come were wiped from the earth, would accept turning into horrific inhuman monsters. Because the next generation can wipe that sin clean, or the next one, for the next ten generations if the stain is that large....but you can get there. You can't get there if your gone.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I will also note that the Moclans are politically being absolute idiots in this situation. They played their hand, and they lost, it sucks, but you suck it up and you move on. You make restorations, you find some fall guys in your government and they get fired, you accept that the female colony is a lost cause....and you move on. I can understand their stubbornness all the way up to the moment the Union got serious about "Brexiting" them, and then suddenly you have to course correct, because the Moclans aren't stupid (sometimes they are portrayed that way, but they are reasonably technologically sophisticated). They know what standing on their own could mean...their own annihilation. And again in the face of that, there's a lot of wiggle room on what you are willing to accept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8703207, member: 5889"] Yeah but that's the problem....its really hard to debate morality and compare it to this situation when the stakes we have dealt with as a species are pretty low in comparison to "our entire planet gets wiped out". It always urkes me in those movies where the protagonists are like, "this might save humanity, but if we lose our humanity, is it really worth it?" And I always want to scream at the tv, "um yes you idiot it absolutely is!". I think most people if faced with the idea that their children and their children's children, and all the child to come were wiped from the earth, would accept turning into horrific inhuman monsters. Because the next generation can wipe that sin clean, or the next one, for the next ten generations if the stain is that large....but you can get there. You can't get there if your gone. Now I will also note that the Moclans are politically being absolute idiots in this situation. They played their hand, and they lost, it sucks, but you suck it up and you move on. You make restorations, you find some fall guys in your government and they get fired, you accept that the female colony is a lost cause....and you move on. I can understand their stubbornness all the way up to the moment the Union got serious about "Brexiting" them, and then suddenly you have to course correct, because the Moclans aren't stupid (sometimes they are portrayed that way, but they are reasonably technologically sophisticated). They know what standing on their own could mean...their own annihilation. And again in the face of that, there's a lot of wiggle room on what you are willing to accept. [/QUOTE]
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