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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8711215" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>In terms of the episode, solid, I quite enjoyed it.</p><p></p><p>I liked that in the end, they did not "convert" Charlie. Though Charlie was able to find the emotional capacity to forgive Isaac (which was a really cool scene) she still fully believed that the Kaylon were a threat so great it was worth taking them out. Yet, at the end of the day, she was an officer and a solider, and she did her duty. She did it not out of any personal desire, but because it had to be done. It's rare to see that in shows sometimes so was cool to see.</p><p></p><p>I also liked Ted Danson's character. One thing that has always irked me about star trek are the admirals, they are always villainous or incompetent, they always seem to get in the way more than anything. conversely the Admirals on Orville always seem pretty rock solid, I could see a captain looking at them and going "I want to be them when I grow up". In terms of Ted Danson's character "Perry", I appreciated that after he committed his crimes, he didn't try to escape, or try to justify his way out of it. He did what he did out of his pure beliefs, and he then immediately went back to face the music. Now you can disagree with him (and ideally your supposed to in favor of the main side), but I like that they didn't try to weasel him at the end to make him more dislikeable, again they maintained the tough moral quandary they all were facing.</p><p></p><p>Though I'm enjoying the "moral debate" in the rest of the thread, I understand it is a story after all, and so the idea that the Kaylon would see Charlie's sacrifice and realize their error was a solid way to go. (and it didn't hurt that the Union had the weapon and didn't immediately destroy them, which directly contradicted their beliefs about organics)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8711215, member: 5889"] In terms of the episode, solid, I quite enjoyed it. I liked that in the end, they did not "convert" Charlie. Though Charlie was able to find the emotional capacity to forgive Isaac (which was a really cool scene) she still fully believed that the Kaylon were a threat so great it was worth taking them out. Yet, at the end of the day, she was an officer and a solider, and she did her duty. She did it not out of any personal desire, but because it had to be done. It's rare to see that in shows sometimes so was cool to see. I also liked Ted Danson's character. One thing that has always irked me about star trek are the admirals, they are always villainous or incompetent, they always seem to get in the way more than anything. conversely the Admirals on Orville always seem pretty rock solid, I could see a captain looking at them and going "I want to be them when I grow up". In terms of Ted Danson's character "Perry", I appreciated that after he committed his crimes, he didn't try to escape, or try to justify his way out of it. He did what he did out of his pure beliefs, and he then immediately went back to face the music. Now you can disagree with him (and ideally your supposed to in favor of the main side), but I like that they didn't try to weasel him at the end to make him more dislikeable, again they maintained the tough moral quandary they all were facing. Though I'm enjoying the "moral debate" in the rest of the thread, I understand it is a story after all, and so the idea that the Kaylon would see Charlie's sacrifice and realize their error was a solid way to go. (and it didn't hurt that the Union had the weapon and didn't immediately destroy them, which directly contradicted their beliefs about organics) [/QUOTE]
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