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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1795435" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>Heh.</p><p> </p><p>heh.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">heh?</span></p><p> </p><p>Interesting ideas--it never even occurred to me that Jimmy may have made up Crake's confession. I'm not sure I believe it, however: his creation of the Perfect Humans wouldn't really have meant anything if they'd been introduced into the rotten old world. I really got the impression that he'd been planning this for years. Remember how Jimmy's mom died, how other scientists and dogs (I think) died? Didn't they dissolve into pink froth as the result of some experiment, and wasn't Crake implicated? It's been several months since I read the book, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details.</p><p> </p><p>Yeah, <strong>Olive</strong>, I've noticed we've got pretty similar tastes <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. If you were local, I'd invite you to our book club: it's small (my wife, a long-term friend, and my brother's girlfriend), and we need more folks in it. </p><p> </p><p>Other books that remind me of <em>Oryx and Crake:</em></p><p><em>Kalki</em>, by Gore Vidal. I actually didn't like it very much, but it's got a lot of the same ideas in it.</p><p><em>Cat's Cradle</em> and <em>Galapagos</em>, both by Kurt Vonnegut. Two more end-of-the-world books, albeit much funnier.</p><p><em>Parable of the Sower</em>, by Octavia Butler. I could easily imagine this book happening in the same world as <em>Oryx and Crake</em>.</p><p><em>Neuromancer</em>, by William S. Gibson. I heard him speak once, and he confessed irritation about people who called his books dystopian. "People," he said, "they're not dystopian--for like 90% of the world's population, <em>it's already that bad! This is how people are living today!</em>" A bit exaggerated, but a chilling idea nonetheless.</p><p> </p><p>And, of course, if you like a little politics mixed into your fiction (NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF SAID POLITICS HERE!), there's some great authors out there:</p><p>George Orwell and HG Wells, two of the grandaddies of the genre, very explicitly made this combination. In fact, <em>Oryx and Crake</em> owes a debt to <em>The Time Machine</em>, now that I think about it.</p><p>I can't say enough good about China Mieville.</p><p> </p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1795435, member: 259"] Heh. heh. [size=1]heh?[/size] Interesting ideas--it never even occurred to me that Jimmy may have made up Crake's confession. I'm not sure I believe it, however: his creation of the Perfect Humans wouldn't really have meant anything if they'd been introduced into the rotten old world. I really got the impression that he'd been planning this for years. Remember how Jimmy's mom died, how other scientists and dogs (I think) died? Didn't they dissolve into pink froth as the result of some experiment, and wasn't Crake implicated? It's been several months since I read the book, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details. Yeah, [b]Olive[/b], I've noticed we've got pretty similar tastes :). If you were local, I'd invite you to our book club: it's small (my wife, a long-term friend, and my brother's girlfriend), and we need more folks in it. Other books that remind me of [i]Oryx and Crake: Kalki[/i], by Gore Vidal. I actually didn't like it very much, but it's got a lot of the same ideas in it. [i]Cat's Cradle[/i] and [i]Galapagos[/i], both by Kurt Vonnegut. Two more end-of-the-world books, albeit much funnier. [i]Parable of the Sower[/i], by Octavia Butler. I could easily imagine this book happening in the same world as [i]Oryx and Crake[/i]. [i]Neuromancer[/i], by William S. Gibson. I heard him speak once, and he confessed irritation about people who called his books dystopian. "People," he said, "they're not dystopian--for like 90% of the world's population, [i]it's already that bad! This is how people are living today![/i]" A bit exaggerated, but a chilling idea nonetheless. And, of course, if you like a little politics mixed into your fiction (NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF SAID POLITICS HERE!), there's some great authors out there: George Orwell and HG Wells, two of the grandaddies of the genre, very explicitly made this combination. In fact, [i]Oryx and Crake[/i] owes a debt to [i]The Time Machine[/i], now that I think about it. I can't say enough good about China Mieville. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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