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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7632689" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I think I follow you, but, isn't the complete lack of anything like a diplomacy check a case of a rule filtering out the proposition?</p><p></p><p>It's certainly not impossible to play PF that way, it's just /also/ possible to just use the skill checks and fill in the details after the check determines success/failure. </p><p></p><p>One issue you run into when DMs start talking about why a system "doesn't let them" do something or "doesn't support the style," is not because it in any way prevents it, but because it also offers alternatives that are so much easier or better that /they can't keep their players on the reservation/.</p><p></p><p>Doesn't that include the "Caller?" I've never seen anyone play with a caller - usually all I get if I mention the concept is blank looks. Or is it the Party A/B example? (Where everyone in party A's name started with A... easy to follow if nothing else.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7632689, member: 996"] I think I follow you, but, isn't the complete lack of anything like a diplomacy check a case of a rule filtering out the proposition? It's certainly not impossible to play PF that way, it's just /also/ possible to just use the skill checks and fill in the details after the check determines success/failure. One issue you run into when DMs start talking about why a system "doesn't let them" do something or "doesn't support the style," is not because it in any way prevents it, but because it also offers alternatives that are so much easier or better that /they can't keep their players on the reservation/. Doesn't that include the "Caller?" I've never seen anyone play with a caller - usually all I get if I mention the concept is blank looks. Or is it the Party A/B example? (Where everyone in party A's name started with A... easy to follow if nothing else.) [/QUOTE]
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