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<blockquote data-quote="eXodus" data-source="post: 985961" data-attributes="member: 417"><p>my wife has taken care of dogs and cats in a kennel environment as a career. also her knowledge and mine of dogs, genetics, evolution and pet social structure is pretty extensive.</p><p></p><p>firstly, if you want to put it into complete evolutionary ideas, pet dogs and cats are not natural creatures. none of my three dogs, a staffordshire bull terrier, boston terrier or american staffordshire terrier are natural beasts. they were bred and designed by humans over thousands of years.</p><p></p><p>cats a little bit less. some breeds of cats are still very close to their wild counterparts. even the most pampered and fluffy cat is a predator. everyone knows someone who had a cat who would stalk and attack other animals or even their 'owner.' that is not a sign of complete domestication.</p><p></p><p>to feed a cat or a dog a vegetarian diet is something i cannot condone, understand or recognize as even being an intelligent idea.</p><p></p><p>morality issues? well, cats and dogs have NO morals. none. they are animals.</p><p></p><p>health issues? well, cats and dogs are designed to eat animal proteins. domesticated dogs can intake a good amount of plant fibers for additional nutrition but it does not replace the need for animal proteins.</p><p></p><p>political issues? well, i have not sat and talked to emma, addie and pixie (my dogs) about their political stance on eating animal proteins. but i am thinking that they do not have a whole lot to say on the subject.</p><p></p><p>people who do feed their pets in this manner are doing it for their own reasons. they are doing it so they can feel like they are making some sort of difference. they are trying to impose their ideals on ANIMALS. </p><p></p><p>what these people really should do is continue livign their lives how they see fit, but have enough universal awareness to not try to make little fuzzy humans out of their animals. hell, these people should not even have pets.</p><p></p><p>yes, cats leave a whole lot of undigested protein in their feces. so do tigers who hunt down their prey. should the zoos start their lions, tiger and cougars on a vegetarian diet for efficiency?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eXodus, post: 985961, member: 417"] my wife has taken care of dogs and cats in a kennel environment as a career. also her knowledge and mine of dogs, genetics, evolution and pet social structure is pretty extensive. firstly, if you want to put it into complete evolutionary ideas, pet dogs and cats are not natural creatures. none of my three dogs, a staffordshire bull terrier, boston terrier or american staffordshire terrier are natural beasts. they were bred and designed by humans over thousands of years. cats a little bit less. some breeds of cats are still very close to their wild counterparts. even the most pampered and fluffy cat is a predator. everyone knows someone who had a cat who would stalk and attack other animals or even their 'owner.' that is not a sign of complete domestication. to feed a cat or a dog a vegetarian diet is something i cannot condone, understand or recognize as even being an intelligent idea. morality issues? well, cats and dogs have NO morals. none. they are animals. health issues? well, cats and dogs are designed to eat animal proteins. domesticated dogs can intake a good amount of plant fibers for additional nutrition but it does not replace the need for animal proteins. political issues? well, i have not sat and talked to emma, addie and pixie (my dogs) about their political stance on eating animal proteins. but i am thinking that they do not have a whole lot to say on the subject. people who do feed their pets in this manner are doing it for their own reasons. they are doing it so they can feel like they are making some sort of difference. they are trying to impose their ideals on ANIMALS. what these people really should do is continue livign their lives how they see fit, but have enough universal awareness to not try to make little fuzzy humans out of their animals. hell, these people should not even have pets. yes, cats leave a whole lot of undigested protein in their feces. so do tigers who hunt down their prey. should the zoos start their lions, tiger and cougars on a vegetarian diet for efficiency? [/QUOTE]
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