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[OT] Can anyone help me understand Football?
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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 1195760" data-attributes="member: 307"><p>Or not.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I said "usually", since different teams use different terminology for the same thing. However, even in an I formation, you frequently find a halfback, and the order in which he is lined up in can vary, althoguh he is frequently lined up between the fullback and the quarterback. (and in the single wing, he always was).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Outside of high school and short yardage, teams rarely run three running back sets. Only a handful of teams use the wishbone at all, its an even more uncommon formation than a five wide receiver set.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>And doing this, they effectively call it a T formation, but make it function like an I formation. Essentially this gets down to terminology that makes no difference. Most teams go with a two back set, a halfback (a smaller lighter runner), and a blocking back. Functionally, the various terms (halfback, fullback, tailback) mean almost nothing, as they are used differently by different teams and at different times.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>And? This is different from what I described how?</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>For some teams, using some terminology.</p><p> </p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Frequently the shotgun has an empty backfield, or a single back in the backfield. I was describing the typical situation, since he asked how to recognize formations. Normally, you can recognize the shotgun in part by the lesser number of backs lined up in the backfield. Of course, the only requirement for a shotgun formation is that the quarterback be backed away from the center.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I've never seen a power I set that <em>didn't</em> include two tight ends. Then again, the team I played on used two tight ends as a regular set, so that may be the reason.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I was giving the most extreme cases, from the most "run heavy" offense (the two tight end, multiple back formation) to the most pass happy (the five wide receiver set). Yes, many teams use four wide and a tight end, but that's not the extreme case.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>In high school that can work. But his question was about pro football, since he is playing fantasy football and wants to know what to look for on the field there. Most teams rarely, outside of specialty defenses, like a goal line defense, use six defensive linemen. And the 5-2 is a rare defense in pro football, since most teams can pass well enough to make it not work unless you have superlative defensive linemen. The 3-4 and 4-3 are the most common defensive alignments.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I've usually seen it done by taking out a linebacker. Usually because the other tem is inserting another wide receiver and taking a secondary receiver out so the nickel is being used so you don't have a linebacker trying to cover a wideout. But this is probably heavily dependent upon your personnel.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>That's the complicated explanation. It doesn't help a beginner much though.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Of course, there is also this rule "No interior lineman may move after taking or simulating a three point stance." which is different from the rule you quoted (check the NFL football rules.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Yep, got my motion backwards. Of course, prior to the snap, you can move in any direction.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 1195760, member: 307"] Or not. I said "usually", since different teams use different terminology for the same thing. However, even in an I formation, you frequently find a halfback, and the order in which he is lined up in can vary, althoguh he is frequently lined up between the fullback and the quarterback. (and in the single wing, he always was). Outside of high school and short yardage, teams rarely run three running back sets. Only a handful of teams use the wishbone at all, its an even more uncommon formation than a five wide receiver set. And doing this, they effectively call it a T formation, but make it function like an I formation. Essentially this gets down to terminology that makes no difference. Most teams go with a two back set, a halfback (a smaller lighter runner), and a blocking back. Functionally, the various terms (halfback, fullback, tailback) mean almost nothing, as they are used differently by different teams and at different times. And? This is different from what I described how? For some teams, using some terminology. [b] Frequently the shotgun has an empty backfield, or a single back in the backfield. I was describing the typical situation, since he asked how to recognize formations. Normally, you can recognize the shotgun in part by the lesser number of backs lined up in the backfield. Of course, the only requirement for a shotgun formation is that the quarterback be backed away from the center. I've never seen a power I set that [i]didn't[/i] include two tight ends. Then again, the team I played on used two tight ends as a regular set, so that may be the reason. I was giving the most extreme cases, from the most "run heavy" offense (the two tight end, multiple back formation) to the most pass happy (the five wide receiver set). Yes, many teams use four wide and a tight end, but that's not the extreme case. In high school that can work. But his question was about pro football, since he is playing fantasy football and wants to know what to look for on the field there. Most teams rarely, outside of specialty defenses, like a goal line defense, use six defensive linemen. And the 5-2 is a rare defense in pro football, since most teams can pass well enough to make it not work unless you have superlative defensive linemen. The 3-4 and 4-3 are the most common defensive alignments. I've usually seen it done by taking out a linebacker. Usually because the other tem is inserting another wide receiver and taking a secondary receiver out so the nickel is being used so you don't have a linebacker trying to cover a wideout. But this is probably heavily dependent upon your personnel. That's the complicated explanation. It doesn't help a beginner much though. Of course, there is also this rule "No interior lineman may move after taking or simulating a three point stance." which is different from the rule you quoted (check the NFL football rules. Yep, got my motion backwards. Of course, prior to the snap, you can move in any direction.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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