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(OT Computer OS) Which Should I Use Win2000 or XPpro?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 102071" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>As the first who started talking about Linux, I just want to say I didn't had the feeling I was bashing MS. Let see... I said</p><p></p><p>"Linux, of course <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>But if you need Windows, favor XP over 2000, and never, never, never take ME."</p><p></p><p>Quoting from memory.</p><p></p><p>Oh yes, I bashed MS by saying not to take ME. By the way, about this wondrous ME system I have sadly bashed, you'd better make a <strong>DOS</strong> boot floppy, boot on it, type C:, then DIR /S (IIRC, it's the parameter for displaying hidden files and dir; I may be wrong, my DOS experience is old), then lookout for a hidden directory with a name like "backup" or "sysback" or something like that. Deltree it mercilessly. Then create a file with the exact same name, by using COPY CON <name of that dir>, hitting enter twice, and hitting F6. Remove the floppy and reboot. The reason for all that ? Windows ME is a kind software that dearly wants to help you. Really. To help you avoid crashes in your system, it makes a backup of your system. Everyday. So in case of trouble, you can recover. And it really, really wants to help you recover from a crash. So it never delete an old backup. And also, it don't allow you to disable this feature. It's for your good. So, with WinME, you'll soon discover you don't have space left on your hard drive, and you'll wonder why.</p><p></p><p>As far as I know, only WinME has this more than annoying problem.</p><p></p><p>As for the favoring XP over 2K... I'm not that sure, now. I only tried XP (and I wouldn't have at all if I had successfully convinced the shopkeeper to NOT ship the new computer with Windows) and I said it based on what I read on the press. Giving that half people here says that XP is the most stable and well done, whereas 2K is clunky as hell, and the other half says exactly the reverse... All I can say is that I don't have had too much problems with Win XP (which is heavily used by my two little brothers who play Deus Ex, CTP II and Unreal Tournament all day long). But also that I'm allergic to its default look and feel.</p><p></p><p>You don't need to register with an OEM preinstalled Win XP, nor with Win XP Pro (the reason for preinstalled being that the registration was already made, and for XP Pro because it would be a major drawback for a system that is supposed to be aimed at enterprise -- if you don't see why a sysadmin would categorically refuse to upgrade 300+ machine to a system that would ask him to phone to MS for each machine, you need to imagine you were that sysadmin).</p><p></p><p>As for Linux not having GUI... Techie speaks here, warning. Linux don't have a GUI, it has nearly a hundred ! Two of them, <a href="http://www.kde.org/" target="_blank">KDE</a> and <a href="http://www.gnome.org/" target="_blank">Gnome</a> are the standard. KDE's core elements are as stable as Windows's ones are. Gnome is less stable (and younger), but has a cooler name. The thing is, they are not integrated into the core of the OS for security and stability reasons (as well as performance reasons, you don't need to loss CPU to run a GUI on a server that don't even has a screen). I never had a crash with a Linux application that could not be recovered, whereas most crashes with Windows were totally unrecoverable and forced me to reoot. With Linux, the problem is usually solvable by switching to another terminal and killing the process that cause trouble from here. </p><p></p><p>The only reasons to prefer Windows over Linux are for videogames or using MS Office (Linux have plenty of office suite, but they are either unfinished, like KOffice, or too slow to load, like Star Office). </p><p></p><p>On the other hands, the reasons to prefer Linux are quite numerous, from the freedom it gives you to its costlessness. You can find nearly everything you may need on a computer for free for Linux. Contrarily to Windows, you won't have to search the Internet to install all the little utilities you miss and that should be an integral part of an OS, be it a Hex editor, various compression programs, a full blown office suite or a development environment complete with manuals and tutorials.</p><p></p><p>When you have all that for free with Windows, you are a pirate. Linux is legally free. Another note of importance for some people would be that Linux can be considered totally free of spyware, whereas MS has a Big Brother-ish reputation. And has still not explained clearly what the hell is that "NSA_Key" entryin the registry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 102071, member: 1328"] As the first who started talking about Linux, I just want to say I didn't had the feeling I was bashing MS. Let see... I said "Linux, of course ;) But if you need Windows, favor XP over 2000, and never, never, never take ME." Quoting from memory. Oh yes, I bashed MS by saying not to take ME. By the way, about this wondrous ME system I have sadly bashed, you'd better make a [b]DOS[/b] boot floppy, boot on it, type C:, then DIR /S (IIRC, it's the parameter for displaying hidden files and dir; I may be wrong, my DOS experience is old), then lookout for a hidden directory with a name like "backup" or "sysback" or something like that. Deltree it mercilessly. Then create a file with the exact same name, by using COPY CON <name of that dir>, hitting enter twice, and hitting F6. Remove the floppy and reboot. The reason for all that ? Windows ME is a kind software that dearly wants to help you. Really. To help you avoid crashes in your system, it makes a backup of your system. Everyday. So in case of trouble, you can recover. And it really, really wants to help you recover from a crash. So it never delete an old backup. And also, it don't allow you to disable this feature. It's for your good. So, with WinME, you'll soon discover you don't have space left on your hard drive, and you'll wonder why. As far as I know, only WinME has this more than annoying problem. As for the favoring XP over 2K... I'm not that sure, now. I only tried XP (and I wouldn't have at all if I had successfully convinced the shopkeeper to NOT ship the new computer with Windows) and I said it based on what I read on the press. Giving that half people here says that XP is the most stable and well done, whereas 2K is clunky as hell, and the other half says exactly the reverse... All I can say is that I don't have had too much problems with Win XP (which is heavily used by my two little brothers who play Deus Ex, CTP II and Unreal Tournament all day long). But also that I'm allergic to its default look and feel. You don't need to register with an OEM preinstalled Win XP, nor with Win XP Pro (the reason for preinstalled being that the registration was already made, and for XP Pro because it would be a major drawback for a system that is supposed to be aimed at enterprise -- if you don't see why a sysadmin would categorically refuse to upgrade 300+ machine to a system that would ask him to phone to MS for each machine, you need to imagine you were that sysadmin). As for Linux not having GUI... Techie speaks here, warning. Linux don't have a GUI, it has nearly a hundred ! Two of them, [url=http://www.kde.org/]KDE[/url] and [url=http://www.gnome.org/]Gnome[/url] are the standard. KDE's core elements are as stable as Windows's ones are. Gnome is less stable (and younger), but has a cooler name. The thing is, they are not integrated into the core of the OS for security and stability reasons (as well as performance reasons, you don't need to loss CPU to run a GUI on a server that don't even has a screen). I never had a crash with a Linux application that could not be recovered, whereas most crashes with Windows were totally unrecoverable and forced me to reoot. With Linux, the problem is usually solvable by switching to another terminal and killing the process that cause trouble from here. The only reasons to prefer Windows over Linux are for videogames or using MS Office (Linux have plenty of office suite, but they are either unfinished, like KOffice, or too slow to load, like Star Office). On the other hands, the reasons to prefer Linux are quite numerous, from the freedom it gives you to its costlessness. You can find nearly everything you may need on a computer for free for Linux. Contrarily to Windows, you won't have to search the Internet to install all the little utilities you miss and that should be an integral part of an OS, be it a Hex editor, various compression programs, a full blown office suite or a development environment complete with manuals and tutorials. When you have all that for free with Windows, you are a pirate. Linux is legally free. Another note of importance for some people would be that Linux can be considered totally free of spyware, whereas MS has a Big Brother-ish reputation. And has still not explained clearly what the hell is that "NSA_Key" entryin the registry. [/QUOTE]
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