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[OT] did i overreact?
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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 189058" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, as usual with these sorts of situations, it's often difficult to judge. First and foremost, we don't know all the details. In cases like this, it's often the situation that the person desciribing it will unintentionally leave out information that would be relevant.</p><p></p><p>That said, a few things stand out:</p><p></p><p>1) You specifically mentioned that you felt the DM was applying templates for the express purpose of devaluing the rogue in your group. That sounds like you have either a communication problem within the group, or some other problem if you feel the DM is trying to suppress a group dynamic. Difficult for us to judge without more information.</p><p></p><p>2) You're an 18th-level cleric. <strong>An 18th-level cleric.</strong> You are potentially a living saint...one of perhaps a handful that your church as walking the Earth. You command the mightiest magics your diety will grant, can speak directly with your diety at will, summon greater planar beings to aid you and bring the dead back to the land of the living. What is the dynamic of your church and the king? The king expecting his commands to be obeyed may not be outrageous, but such treatment from lowly men-at-arms...this seems somewhat odd.</p><p></p><p>3) Why did you remain at the temple for the remainder? Was it because you, as the player, were angry, or because your character was? Both are potentially legitimate reasons, and both could have been addressed by your DM...but not without your cooperation. How you, as a player, handled this situation could be the difference between a wasted evening and a enjoyable one. It also is dependent on the DM, who sounds like he may want to contain high-level characters, but not be able to 'go with the flow' so to speak, if you go outside his boundaries. Not necessarily a problem, but a trait to be aware of.</p><p></p><p></p><p>4) Things to consider: It is wartime, and polymorph and alter self spells are not hard to come by. The king IS a king, and may have a powerful magic item or even prestige class skill to compel you. By the same token, the appearance of the undead caster could be altered by a simple glamour. How she looked certainly has nothing to do with how she actually might have appeared, or what she was trying to project. A powerful undead spellcaster probably would cast an illusion on herself if she had to walk amongst the living. </p><p></p><p>5) Finally, those guards don't have to be high-level to outrank you socially. Just ask a druid or barbarian living in the great woods how well they're received at court by a bunch of low-level aristocrats. Food for thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 189058, member: 151"] Well, as usual with these sorts of situations, it's often difficult to judge. First and foremost, we don't know all the details. In cases like this, it's often the situation that the person desciribing it will unintentionally leave out information that would be relevant. That said, a few things stand out: 1) You specifically mentioned that you felt the DM was applying templates for the express purpose of devaluing the rogue in your group. That sounds like you have either a communication problem within the group, or some other problem if you feel the DM is trying to suppress a group dynamic. Difficult for us to judge without more information. 2) You're an 18th-level cleric. [b]An 18th-level cleric.[/b] You are potentially a living saint...one of perhaps a handful that your church as walking the Earth. You command the mightiest magics your diety will grant, can speak directly with your diety at will, summon greater planar beings to aid you and bring the dead back to the land of the living. What is the dynamic of your church and the king? The king expecting his commands to be obeyed may not be outrageous, but such treatment from lowly men-at-arms...this seems somewhat odd. 3) Why did you remain at the temple for the remainder? Was it because you, as the player, were angry, or because your character was? Both are potentially legitimate reasons, and both could have been addressed by your DM...but not without your cooperation. How you, as a player, handled this situation could be the difference between a wasted evening and a enjoyable one. It also is dependent on the DM, who sounds like he may want to contain high-level characters, but not be able to 'go with the flow' so to speak, if you go outside his boundaries. Not necessarily a problem, but a trait to be aware of. 4) Things to consider: It is wartime, and polymorph and alter self spells are not hard to come by. The king IS a king, and may have a powerful magic item or even prestige class skill to compel you. By the same token, the appearance of the undead caster could be altered by a simple glamour. How she looked certainly has nothing to do with how she actually might have appeared, or what she was trying to project. A powerful undead spellcaster probably would cast an illusion on herself if she had to walk amongst the living. 5) Finally, those guards don't have to be high-level to outrank you socially. Just ask a druid or barbarian living in the great woods how well they're received at court by a bunch of low-level aristocrats. Food for thought. [/QUOTE]
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