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<blockquote data-quote="ColonelHardisson" data-source="post: 180853" data-attributes="member: 363">CGI is anything but laziness. It takes at least as much money and man-hours to do CGI as older model-based special effects, at least for high-budget movies. Yes, it's becoming less expensive and labor intensive to use CGI, but filmmakers who really want to push the envelope still spend lots of money and time to really distinguish their effecst from the rest. Plus, you're comparing top-flight effects using models to CGI, when I could point to hundreds of movies and TV shows that used model-based effects, and the ships (or whatever) looked like someone strung their toys up in front of a camera. The best CGI easily compares favorably to, if not surpasses, the best non-CGI effects. Compare the old effects in Star Wars to the special edition Lucas put out; I was there in the theater both in 1977 and for the re-release, and the new stuff revitalized that film; the effects simply hadn't held up.I will say, though, that the two most impressive special effects movies I've seen came long before CGI - Close Encounters of the Third Kind and 2001. The effects for both stand the test of time very well. But they're the exception, not the rule.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ColonelHardisson, post: 180853, member: 363"] CGI is anything but laziness. It takes at least as much money and man-hours to do CGI as older model-based special effects, at least for high-budget movies. Yes, it's becoming less expensive and labor intensive to use CGI, but filmmakers who really want to push the envelope still spend lots of money and time to really distinguish their effecst from the rest. Plus, you're comparing top-flight effects using models to CGI, when I could point to hundreds of movies and TV shows that used model-based effects, and the ships (or whatever) looked like someone strung their toys up in front of a camera. The best CGI easily compares favorably to, if not surpasses, the best non-CGI effects. Compare the old effects in Star Wars to the special edition Lucas put out; I was there in the theater both in 1977 and for the re-release, and the new stuff revitalized that film; the effects simply hadn't held up. I will say, though, that the two most impressive special effects movies I've seen came long before CGI - Close Encounters of the Third Kind and 2001. The effects for both stand the test of time very well. But they're the exception, not the rule. [/QUOTE]

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