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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RingXero" data-source="post: 302369" data-attributes="member: 109">more rantsorry, forgot to congratulate you.Congratulations!no, really, it is tough out there.anyway,The personality thing here is a final type of test, they first have to get by me, a combination of tech interview and whether or not I want to work with them.  no one gets to move on that I don't personally feel would work out in the position.  First and foremost, it is the skills, second it is their ability to have a conversation, and their personality, as this postion will have them interfacing with people on a daily basis.Where my main problem is, not only with people who are completely 'untrained' but mostly with those who where trained at 'Chubb' and 'Devry' and their ilk.  Chubb has a good programing dept from what I understand, but it is their desktop support and network classes that are truly horrible.  of the average of twenty people that are in a given class, an average 15 of which have not previously opened a machine, know DOS commands, etc...  yet after a few months, Chubb gets them to believe that they should be making 40k a year, with an education that I know is woefully inadequate.  I know employers who literally throw resumes with the 'Education: Chubb' on them in the garbage immediately and don't bother even looking at the resume.  Devry having a longer course is nicer, but they dwell in the wrong areas, there is a saying around here about how to tell a fresh devry grad on his first day.....  "He is the one that takes the multi-meter with him to find out why the printer isn't working".Here I sit with over a hundred resumes, people willing to move from california, pennsylvania, new mexico, and from farther areas of NJ/NY.  A good chunk not worth even calling.  90% of them need a lesson in how to build a resume, some need spellchecking.  .......  SPELLCHECKING!!!! Lies abound, I had one person that enfuriated me so much I ripped their resume up before their eyes, the lies where so thick. Don't say you know Unix if you don't know what CHMOD is. (not that we here use unix at all, but I was pleasently suprised by that remark on someones resume, and when they didn't know, I had to do more digging to find out even more lies, and finally excuse them from the interview)I see the 'template' resumes, the resumes put together by head hunters, by Chubb and Devry, full of 'watch word' skills.  Resumes put together seemingly by the applicants children, some with seemingly no thought as to how the information is actually presented.  If you need a second page for goodness sake use a second page, don't drop to a six point font, don't just put two or three lines at the top of the second page either.I find that I have a 'golden carrot' of a position, the kind I know people salivate over, sure the pay isn't great, and is the only downfall of the thing, but after two years you would be so skilled that you could realistically make more than double, heck the position title I am willing to change to whatever they want upon their departure(as long as I feel they warrant that title of course).aaaarrrrghRX</blockquote>

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