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<blockquote data-quote="Duncan Haldane" data-source="post: 386479" data-attributes="member: 514">Commas - I was always taught that you don't need a comma before the 'and'.&nbsp; In fact, what I was taught was&nbsp; that putting that comma in started a new sub-group (such as in the orgies example).Another time I've seen dispute of commas is in ownership.&nbsp; When the sentence is directed to someone, such as &quot;Jack, bring in the cows&quot;.&nbsp; My flatmate says the comma is unnecessary.&nbsp; I say it is absolutely necessary&nbsp; - for exampe...&quot;What's up, Doc?&quot;and &quot;What's up Doc?&quot; are two VERY different questions.And as for &quot;irregardless&quot;, <a href="http://www.dictionary.com" target="_blank">www.dictionary.com</a> writes:&quot;Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.&quot;Also, see my .sig <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />Duncan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Duncan Haldane, post: 386479, member: 514"] Commas - I was always taught that you don't need a comma before the 'and'. In fact, what I was taught was that putting that comma in started a new sub-group (such as in the orgies example). Another time I've seen dispute of commas is in ownership. When the sentence is directed to someone, such as "Jack, bring in the cows". My flatmate says the comma is unnecessary. I say it is absolutely necessary - for exampe... "What's up, Doc?" and "What's up Doc?" are two VERY different questions. And as for "irregardless", [url]www.dictionary.com[/url] writes: "Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so." Also, see my .sig :-) Duncan [/QUOTE]

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