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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 155791" data-attributes="member: 1134">Yes transform to carp is basically just an attack.&nbsp; But that transform could of just as easily been transform to turtle so it is a attack/restrain power.&nbsp; Or transfrom into my absolute slave etc.&nbsp; Turning things into anything would be a advantage and make it more expensive/weaker but it would be massively more useful than an attack.&nbsp; Also the cost of PD may be soewhat small, but in heroic games even small costs are a lot.&nbsp; And it defends against a much more limited and rare group of attacks.&nbsp; Exactly what spell level would you place a protection v polymoroph spell that just gave a +4-6 luck save bonus.&nbsp; Me I'd place it around 1st or second level.&nbsp; You may disreguard the costs of power defense, but it is a limited defense.&nbsp; How much would those EB and RKA cost if they were vs power defense and could do body.&nbsp; Answer 3 times as much as there oridnary cost.And it sounds like in your games the answer is to try to make broad attack powers vs a limited defense cost the same as narrowly focused attack powers against a natural defense that everyone gains for free which is one answer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 155791, member: 1134"] Yes transform to carp is basically just an attack. But that transform could of just as easily been transform to turtle so it is a attack/restrain power. Or transfrom into my absolute slave etc. Turning things into anything would be a advantage and make it more expensive/weaker but it would be massively more useful than an attack. Also the cost of PD may be soewhat small, but in heroic games even small costs are a lot. And it defends against a much more limited and rare group of attacks. Exactly what spell level would you place a protection v polymoroph spell that just gave a +4-6 luck save bonus. Me I'd place it around 1st or second level. You may disreguard the costs of power defense, but it is a limited defense. How much would those EB and RKA cost if they were vs power defense and could do body. Answer 3 times as much as there oridnary cost. And it sounds like in your games the answer is to try to make broad attack powers vs a limited defense cost the same as narrowly focused attack powers against a natural defense that everyone gains for free which is one answer. [/QUOTE]

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