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[OT] How much of history do we really know?
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<blockquote data-quote="Amos_Sten" data-source="post: 1156586" data-attributes="member: 14413"><p>However do some research and you gain a better grasp of the situation. Not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again do some research and you can come up with a good theory. Not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet there are things we can be certain of. The collapse of the Roman Republic into the Empire would seem fairly certain. Thanks to archeolgical and wriiten records we can also be fairly certain of the major players and their motivations although not always their ultimate goal. Once more not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or I could read the original sources and form my own opinions then compare them with the other theories out there. Radical I know but some people do things like that no take the word of the History channel.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair enough, I never claimed that we knew the absolute truth, just that we knew more that the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed. If I was interested in absolute truth I'd study philosophy not history. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He said that we knew "jack" which to my mind means nothing (Ah the irony of discussing an intent in a phrase in a discussion on bias in written texts.) not that we don't know as much as we think we do. Sloppy language isn't much of an excuse.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But then again I have never heard of anyone completely discounting an original text. Even if factually inaccurate in can give a view of the society of the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is again a discussion of what we know and how it fits together, they all agree that we atleast know something not the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it is the best we have and a historical document that is based even in part on now lost texts is guess what more than the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed. Quite often the texts backed up by a single author are backed up by archeological evidence. The motivations of the people involved will naturally be distorted but that does not mean that the text has no value.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amos_Sten, post: 1156586, member: 14413"] However do some research and you gain a better grasp of the situation. Not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed. Again do some research and you can come up with a good theory. Not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed. Yet there are things we can be certain of. The collapse of the Roman Republic into the Empire would seem fairly certain. Thanks to archeolgical and wriiten records we can also be fairly certain of the major players and their motivations although not always their ultimate goal. Once more not the "Jack" Reapersaurus claimed. Or I could read the original sources and form my own opinions then compare them with the other theories out there. Radical I know but some people do things like that no take the word of the History channel. Fair enough, I never claimed that we knew the absolute truth, just that we knew more that the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed. If I was interested in absolute truth I'd study philosophy not history. :) He said that we knew "jack" which to my mind means nothing (Ah the irony of discussing an intent in a phrase in a discussion on bias in written texts.) not that we don't know as much as we think we do. Sloppy language isn't much of an excuse. But then again I have never heard of anyone completely discounting an original text. Even if factually inaccurate in can give a view of the society of the time. Which is again a discussion of what we know and how it fits together, they all agree that we atleast know something not the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed. But it is the best we have and a historical document that is based even in part on now lost texts is guess what more than the "jack" Reapersaurus claimed. Quite often the texts backed up by a single author are backed up by archeological evidence. The motivations of the people involved will naturally be distorted but that does not mean that the text has no value. [/QUOTE]
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