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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1157082" data-attributes="member: 1325">Gerhard Reitlinger put the figure at between 4,194,200 and 4,581,200 in his book "The Final Solution - The attempt to exterminate the Jews of Europe 1939-1945"Soviet atrocity propagandist, Ilya Ehrenburg, had publicized the six-million-figure in the Soviet foreign press as early as January 4, 1945, i.e., fully four months before the war’s end.They were sent to ghettos, work camps, concentration camps, and extermination camps. Many died already in the ghettos, due to starvation, overcrowding, and lack of shelter. No matter where they were, they were forced to live in such squalor and in such conditions that death was almost inevitable. Surely, they were deliberately sent to their deaths. The intention was to murder them. But they (the nazis) needed the labour as well.So those that died from various diseases (typhus, jaundice, tbc, cholera) that always appear and wreck havoc upon cramped groups living in unsanitory conditions were somehow neglible? That the cause was carefully planned Nazi brutality is no doubt. You must remember that the latest "guestimates" of total deaths by "gas chamber" are now at 500,000, (Pressac) which is a remarkably lower figure than the original 4 million deaths attributed to Auschwitz's gas chambers alone. Consider in ages past, that the number of actual casualties on the battlefield was less than those that succumbed to disease and sickness after the fight. Captain Bligh lead an expedition to the West Indies and ended up with most of his sailors dead from all sorts of tropical sicknesses, with little no fighting being done. When you remove medicines, shove several families to live together in a single draughty room, with little or no sanitation, no clean water, nor proper food for 6 months, yet they must labour when required, or receive no rations whatsoever, people will start dying. Simple things as cutting yourself shaving has dire consequences in such an environment. Such were the conditions in the ghettos. It is still deliberate murder in my book, as they (the nazis) were well aware of the consequences.</blockquote>

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