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[OT] How much of history do we really know?
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<blockquote data-quote="ledded" data-source="post: 1197858" data-attributes="member: 12744"><p>Wow. That would be a first for me ;^)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whoops... you are correct. Most gamers aren't old men like me (at the ripe old age closing in on 34). The schoolroom history in the seventies vs. today it is, then.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Real quick note here... I am of the opinion that FACT is merely opinion backed up with some kind of evidence, observation, and/or widespread acceptance. There are a lot of 'facts' in the past that have been blatantly shown to be untrue. Even the most basic 'facts' may not be held so by anyone. One man's fact is another man's fallacy; perception often becomes one's reality. Of course, being of a logical and scientific bent, most people who dont believe something *I* take for a fact I tell this; just because you dont believe in it doesnt make it any less true, at least to me. And I dont want to start a debate on this at all, but religion is one of the best examples of this.</p><p></p><p>Of course that's my opinion, you could be wrong. ;^)</p><p></p><p><snip></p><p></p><p>Good stuff, though I agree with varying degrees to most of what you said. I tend to take a more fence-straddling stance on it... even the worst glory hounds and ratings-hogs 'historians' still have some basic desire to spread what they might mistakenly believe is the truth or fact, and any information, to me, is more important than no information at all. I'd rather hear a lie than nothing at all, because at least then I have *something* to base an impression from. And even a lie often contains some facts that you can derive, even if it's just that a particular source of information sees some gain in telling you a lie ;^)</p><p></p><p>And if you are basing an opinions or taking your facts from one source, especially mass media (TV, News, etc) then shame on you. The burden of 'truth' is on you, not anyone else. If there is something that sparks in you something more than a passing interest, then check out every side of the issue (even if the opposite side is distasteful or stupid in your opinion) and compare notes. Make observations. Then make up your mind. And if you change your mind a few times along the way, well, that's ok. A mind is like underwear, if you dont change it at least every now and then, noone is going to want to be close to you. And they're certainly not going to want to have anything to do with what's in your underwear ;^)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ledded, post: 1197858, member: 12744"] Wow. That would be a first for me ;^) Whoops... you are correct. Most gamers aren't old men like me (at the ripe old age closing in on 34). The schoolroom history in the seventies vs. today it is, then. Real quick note here... I am of the opinion that FACT is merely opinion backed up with some kind of evidence, observation, and/or widespread acceptance. There are a lot of 'facts' in the past that have been blatantly shown to be untrue. Even the most basic 'facts' may not be held so by anyone. One man's fact is another man's fallacy; perception often becomes one's reality. Of course, being of a logical and scientific bent, most people who dont believe something *I* take for a fact I tell this; just because you dont believe in it doesnt make it any less true, at least to me. And I dont want to start a debate on this at all, but religion is one of the best examples of this. Of course that's my opinion, you could be wrong. ;^) <snip> Good stuff, though I agree with varying degrees to most of what you said. I tend to take a more fence-straddling stance on it... even the worst glory hounds and ratings-hogs 'historians' still have some basic desire to spread what they might mistakenly believe is the truth or fact, and any information, to me, is more important than no information at all. I'd rather hear a lie than nothing at all, because at least then I have *something* to base an impression from. And even a lie often contains some facts that you can derive, even if it's just that a particular source of information sees some gain in telling you a lie ;^) And if you are basing an opinions or taking your facts from one source, especially mass media (TV, News, etc) then shame on you. The burden of 'truth' is on you, not anyone else. If there is something that sparks in you something more than a passing interest, then check out every side of the issue (even if the opposite side is distasteful or stupid in your opinion) and compare notes. Make observations. Then make up your mind. And if you change your mind a few times along the way, well, that's ok. A mind is like underwear, if you dont change it at least every now and then, noone is going to want to be close to you. And they're certainly not going to want to have anything to do with what's in your underwear ;^) [/QUOTE]
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