(OT) Monte Cook's most recent rant.....

Virginia Wilde

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I posted this over at the boards there, but I thought some folks here might like to read it, too. I'd like to hear other's thoughts on my response.
Monte Cook's rant is here:
http://www.montecook.com/anrant.html


Great rant. It makes an excellent point. Most folk would indeed be out of luck when faced with such circumstances, and it is quite frightening in its implications.
The masses have been fed television, media exposition, convenience, and simplicity for as long as such things were possible. I guess I have a unique perspective as I have little to no access to television (I don't even own one), and I don't do much on the internet itself. People always want something better, faster, and more efficiently, because they are told it's better that way.
It's not just technology that we need. It's the comfort that it brings. Television, film, and popular opinion force-feed us a diet of regimented technological security, a self-inflicted utopian cage that is all too easy to rattle. We think ourselves invulnerable, and when we are reminded of our human nature and inherent vulnerabilities as such, we become frightened and try to ignore those reminders, or perhaps cast them into molds that fit our view (calling the 9/11 terrorists 'cowards' instead of 'crazy' or 'fanatic' is one such example, after all, it's not cowardice to sacrifice one's self for one's religion, but that's another story), exiling those who dissent, lumping them into the same group as those we try to ignore.
The dark ages are here, and they always have been. Just because we call ourselves 'enlightened' doesn't make it so. We still have much to learn, but we must first admit that we do, for otherwise, we make the same mistakes that our ancestors did. Sure, we know our history, but how often do we really act upon it?
Long ago, people would come out from the darkened forests and huddle around a fire, hoping that the light and heat held the horrors of the world at bay. Common culture is the new fire, burning softly in a forest at night. Nothing much has changed. We still fear the unseen, and wolves still worry us. If our technology vanishes tomorrow, we will still be the same. We just won't have TV.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is, well, when Marx said 'religion is the opiate of the masses,' he just hadn't seen anything yet.

Sorry. I hope my freakin' weird allegories didn't confuse or worry anybody.

As to the 'caveman scenario,' the thing here is to ask yourself 'could I do it if I had to?' Think about that for a second. If it really came down to an apocalypse of sorts, could you skin an animal or make a club? I mean, I certainly could, and I bet most other people could if they had too. After all, what's a PVC pipe or crowbar? And skin, well, that's just stretched in the sun and cut with a sharp object or wrapped around the body.
Eh, sorry. Just had to say something about that.

-Mr. Author
 
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Virginia Wilde said:
....or perhaps cast them into molds that fit our view (calling the 9/11 terrorists 'cowards' instead of 'crazy' or 'fanatic' is one such example, after all, it's not cowardice to sacrifice one's self for one's religion, but that's another story), exiling those who dissent, lumping them into the same group as those we try to ignore...

I remember watching the TV for about 20 hours straight on Sept. 11th and tehy kept trotting out mid-level politico after mid-level politico to give the press a statement on what had happened (like I really cared what the deputy secretary of agriculture had to say on the subject:)) as the President scuttled from airforce base to airforce base.

Virtually all of them trotted out the "Coward" tag for the terrosists.

All ic ould think was "were they just watching what I was watching. Evil? Certainly. Despicable? No question. Cowardly?

Nuh uh.

I can't imagine how a suicide pilot could fit into a cockpit with (metaphorically) balls that big.
 

Virginia Wilde said:
I posted this over at the boards there, but I thought some folks here might like to read it, too. I'd like to hear other's thoughts on my response.
Monte Cook's rant is here:
http://www.montecook.com/anrant.html

And skin, well, that's just stretched in the sun and cut with a sharp object or wrapped around the body.

-Mr. Author

you may wanna rethink your confidence, a skin stretched to dry in the sun untreated just turns into a maggot eaten opeice of cardboard, and your club ideas are terrible, you aren't making a club, you are appropriating a tool, poorly. both of these objects become nearly impossible to use when wet.
 

Virginia Wilde said:
We still have much to learn, but we must first admit that we do, for otherwise, we make the same mistakes that our ancestors did. Sure, we know our history, but how often do we really act upon it?B]


I would agree with learning from past mistakes, but this quote works well with your following one...

As to the 'caveman scenario,' the thing here is to ask yourself 'could I do it if I had to?'

I think the question needs to be more specific- could they physically do what would needed to be done? Sure.

Could they mentally do what they needed to be done?

And the answer would be that some could, but most couldn't and would look towards that would.

Mankind, for the consideration of survival, would be fine.

FD
 

Alish is right, that's not how to stretch a skin.

Also, I would make a fire hardened spear before a club (all you need is fire, a good long, stout piece of wood, and a rock:)

A crowbar would be infintely useful, but not (I think) as a club.

Unless it was one of those ones without the "nail puller" hook on the end. Then it would probably be ok if you grip taped one end of it.
 

Sorry aboot that. I haven't skinned or prepared anything since I was seven (though I'm sure it would eventually come back to me). Now possum, raccoon, and rattlesnake, those I still know how to cook.
 

Virginia Wilde said:
Sorry aboot that. I haven't skinned or prepared anything since I was seven (though I'm sure it would eventually come back to me). Now possum, raccoon, and rattlesnake, those I still know how to cook.

good choices, i am always amazed at the folks who think they need to kill some huge beastie to eat, like in a world without refrigeration that deer/elk/buffalo is gonna last more than 2 days... :p
 

Y'know, I hate to be the one who brings up this point, but, even if our entire society crumbled into chaos this very moment, you could still get your hands on a gun or leather jacket.

Me? I'd drive to my parents and pick up my bastard sword to battle the unholy masses. ;)

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I can make fire one of several different ways from things found in nature. With that and rope/twinemaking, everything else just sort of falls into place.
 


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