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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 277580" data-attributes="member: 413">Re: Re: Re: (OT) Monte Cook's most recent rant.....And how much time do YOU spend per week doing survival tasks?  (working to cover your costs for enough food to live and very basic shelter).   Probably not 14 hours.   Probably the vast majority of your time is spent on non-necessities (even though you might not recognize them as such).For instance, you probably live in an abode that is well beyond your needs.    You really only need to be warm enough and dry enough to keep you from getting sick and you don't need more than about 10-15 sq ft to sleep comfortably.  Probably another 5 sq ft for your tools...oh wait...tools are actually a technology and a luxury...no technology means no tools (not even rocks for throwing at stuff).  You don't need tools to gather berries and nuts.   Now...go out in the woods and start looking for enough nuts and berries to keep you alive.  I hope your feet are covered with a good leather-like calous because shoes are a technology.  What?  You've been searching all day and can't find enough food?  That's because you very likely live in a region that doesn't produce enough food per unit of land to support a single human being all year long without growing it and without hunting with tools.   Without technology, most of the land mass of the earth could not support human life.Sorry.  I just gotta take the "anti-technologist" arguements to their logical conclusions...Even 100 years ago, life was much harder than today in every aspect.  Just a few examples:Transportation:  100 years ago, cars were just being invented.  Trains were available, but were expensive, slow and wrecked havoc on the environment (far worse than modern cars).  Most people relied on their own feet or horses if they could afford them (most couldn't).  As a result, most people never went more than a mile or two from home most days of their lives.  Would your life be better or worse if travelling more than a mile or so in a day was extremely difficult?Food storage and processing:  100 years ago, you cooled food via an ice box.  This of course had limitted room so you didn't keep unnecessary things cool.  In southern climes where bodies of water never froze, you simply did without.   Storing fresh food was a real problem.  Would your life generally be better or worse if you couldn't store food in a refridgerator? Information:  100 year ago, information got around society via telegraph or it was carried by people (mail, messenger services, trains, horses, etc.)   Most people got most of their information via newspapers and if it wasn't local, then it was either a few days (or weeks) old or was of tremendous importance.  Would your life be better or worse with access to information severly restricted?  Entertainment:  100 years ago, entertainment options were much more limited than they are now.  Radio hadn't been invented yet.   The movie industry was in it's infancy.  Would your life be better or worse if you had fewer entertainment options.etc. etc. etc.</blockquote>

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