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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chun-tzu" data-source="post: 504880" data-attributes="member: 1441">Santa Claus does not represent the holidays, he represents Christmas, which has explicitly Christian roots (although it's heavily commercialized now and celebrated by many non-Christians) that run counter to Jewish beliefs.Personally, I like the revised logo because it's a little more diverse; there's both a Christmas symbol and a Chanukah symbol. And this is a very diverse community.But if you added the dreidel, would other people complain about adding other symbols? Maybe a few, but I'm kind of doubtful. When you start throwing in every holiday symbol you can find, it gets cluttered, inelegant, and unattractive. Any possible further changes should be judged on their own merits, on a case by case basis.Is it unfair to include Judaism but not other faiths? In my opinion, no, because you can't include all other faiths. But the difference to me is like this: you've got your TV shows with ALL white people, you've got shows with one or two persons of color, and you've got shows with very culturally diverse casts. As an Asian American, I don't look at a show like Angel and say, "hey, there's an African American, why aren't there any Asian Americans?", I say, "cool, there are people of different races working together" (and it's not one of those shows where literally everyone you see in every single episode are white).So, that's my take on things. I like both logos fine, and if it were put to vote (and I realize it's NOT up for vote), I'd go with the alt.logo, but I have no complaints with the current one.</blockquote>

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