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<blockquote data-quote="DDK" data-source="post: 660666" data-attributes="member: 6469"><p>I've done a little bit of judo, a fair bit of karate, a little bit of ninjutsu (lol, I don't know about elsewhere but here it was a joke, but I also trained myself via a book... eh, I was a kid and it was 'cool'), some boxing, a small bit of aikido, a good jab of American style kick-boxing (my personal favourite, Superfoot ROOLZ! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ) and last but not least, real fights where the other guy/s wanted me dead.</p><p></p><p>I take exception to what you just said and, quite frankly, think anyone who would say that, has never been in a stand-up fight where their life depended on the outcome.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, it doesn't hurt to know martial arts, especially in terms of hand-eye (ever tried to hit a moving target with you fist that don't wanna get hit?), but relying on it without having YEARS of EXTENSIVE training is simply stupid.</p><p></p><p>Till that muscle memory kicks in, ie. it becomes wrote, it's more of a hindrance than a help. And even then, only about 5% of the moves are ever going to be of any practical use.</p><p></p><p>Take this for instance. The basic karate stance. Find a large area clear of debris that is flat (no incline/decline). Drop one knee to be level with your other heel and put two fists distance between 'em and stand up, with the weight on the front leg, foot facing forward, and the aft foot at an angle. Anyone who's done five minutes of karate lessons should know this stance.</p><p></p><p>Now, slide your aft foot forward in a gentle arc inwards, keeping your front leg bent so that your centre of gravity stays low, and move it forward in a gentle arc outwards and regain the stance with your weight now on the former aft leg.</p><p></p><p>Now twist your torso towards your aft leg in the direction your groin is facing and reverse the weight so that it's on the opposite leg.</p><p></p><p>Now, slide one your forward foot back, again keeping your centre of gravity low, and slide either foot, in either direction to take up the same stance.</p><p></p><p>You've just learned how to do the basic karate stance and maneuver in any direction.</p><p></p><p>All of that is real basic stuff. I'm not being a poseur by stating that as you can learn it by walking into a dojo and getting your first lesson for free.</p><p></p><p>However I wanted to demonstrate something to those who don't know this stuff. You see, the above is the fundamental basics of karate maneuvering and is used in most of the kata's (a series of moves and maneuvers) in karate, in one form or another.</p><p></p><p>Now, go (in the case of Serpenteye, go to a place similar to where you were attacked) to a place where you think it might be possible for you to get mugged (obviously during the day and in as safe a manner as possible and with friends, etc... I hope people aren't stupid enough to... oh wait, yes they are, nevermind). Now try all the above. Try it in another 9 places.</p><p></p><p>I bet you that 9 out of those 10 places, you couldn't do half the moves.</p><p></p><p>Now, sure, if you're well trained, those moves can help and you can adapt and you know what will and won't work, but like I said, that takes YEARS and LOTS of practice.</p><p></p><p>But for your average Joe, suddenly they're in a situation where they think they know what they're doing and yet the fundamental basics of what they've learned can't be done, and so the system breaks down under real world conditions which has a cascading effect through the rest of the system.</p><p></p><p>So if you really wanna learn how to fight... find a Fight Club <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DDK, post: 660666, member: 6469"] I've done a little bit of judo, a fair bit of karate, a little bit of ninjutsu (lol, I don't know about elsewhere but here it was a joke, but I also trained myself via a book... eh, I was a kid and it was 'cool'), some boxing, a small bit of aikido, a good jab of American style kick-boxing (my personal favourite, Superfoot ROOLZ! :D ) and last but not least, real fights where the other guy/s wanted me dead. I take exception to what you just said and, quite frankly, think anyone who would say that, has never been in a stand-up fight where their life depended on the outcome. Like I said, it doesn't hurt to know martial arts, especially in terms of hand-eye (ever tried to hit a moving target with you fist that don't wanna get hit?), but relying on it without having YEARS of EXTENSIVE training is simply stupid. Till that muscle memory kicks in, ie. it becomes wrote, it's more of a hindrance than a help. And even then, only about 5% of the moves are ever going to be of any practical use. Take this for instance. The basic karate stance. Find a large area clear of debris that is flat (no incline/decline). Drop one knee to be level with your other heel and put two fists distance between 'em and stand up, with the weight on the front leg, foot facing forward, and the aft foot at an angle. Anyone who's done five minutes of karate lessons should know this stance. Now, slide your aft foot forward in a gentle arc inwards, keeping your front leg bent so that your centre of gravity stays low, and move it forward in a gentle arc outwards and regain the stance with your weight now on the former aft leg. Now twist your torso towards your aft leg in the direction your groin is facing and reverse the weight so that it's on the opposite leg. Now, slide one your forward foot back, again keeping your centre of gravity low, and slide either foot, in either direction to take up the same stance. You've just learned how to do the basic karate stance and maneuver in any direction. All of that is real basic stuff. I'm not being a poseur by stating that as you can learn it by walking into a dojo and getting your first lesson for free. However I wanted to demonstrate something to those who don't know this stuff. You see, the above is the fundamental basics of karate maneuvering and is used in most of the kata's (a series of moves and maneuvers) in karate, in one form or another. Now, go (in the case of Serpenteye, go to a place similar to where you were attacked) to a place where you think it might be possible for you to get mugged (obviously during the day and in as safe a manner as possible and with friends, etc... I hope people aren't stupid enough to... oh wait, yes they are, nevermind). Now try all the above. Try it in another 9 places. I bet you that 9 out of those 10 places, you couldn't do half the moves. Now, sure, if you're well trained, those moves can help and you can adapt and you know what will and won't work, but like I said, that takes YEARS and LOTS of practice. But for your average Joe, suddenly they're in a situation where they think they know what they're doing and yet the fundamental basics of what they've learned can't be done, and so the system breaks down under real world conditions which has a cascading effect through the rest of the system. So if you really wanna learn how to fight... find a Fight Club :) [/QUOTE]
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