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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 313881" data-attributes="member: 1194">James - get your brain out of your career! (for this discussion)  LOL  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I say it's not an introductory course because it's NOT an introductory course.(to computers OR networking)It presumes that you know about computer use, networks, and LAN technology experience for the context necessary to make heads or tails out of anything.OTOH, It IS an introductory course for Cisco routing. I think that's where you aren't thinking it thru from the standpoint of someone who doesn't know about these things, James.The first thing an instructor has to do is find a way to virtually "forget" what he knows about a subject and approach the class as if you don't know the material.Let me list the chapters for the CCNA course:Chapter 1: Internetworking Concepts Overview (aka the OSI Model, which single-handedly baffles 95% of people to start out)2: Assembling and Cabling Cisco Devices3: Operating and Configuring a Cisco IOS Device4: Managing your Network Environment5: Catalyst 1900 Switch Operations6: Extending Switchedc Networks with Virtual LANsis that enough to make my point?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And there's 13 chapters total.Where is "this is a computer.This is how it works underneath the hood.This is how we interface with it.This is what we can do with it.This is how we can troubleshoot it.This is how we manage it.This is how we monitor it.These are all different kinds of networks - let's talk about those.These are network services - let's explore and configure and troubleshoot them.These are the services/components that allow WAN technologies to work.etc.There's no path, or learning curve.It's just PLOP!  Into the deep end with you, boy, and you'd better climb your way to the surface might quick before you drown in information you have no tools with which to comprehend.Oh- mind those weights around your ankles.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />There is NO POINT (IMO) in even talking about WAN stuff until the student knows what the heck a LAN consists of, and the ins and outs of troubleshooting the desktops and the LAN services.While the rare individual may be able to succeed and PERHAPS save a year of time, the vast majority of people on this planet are much better suited in taking it step by step... the way learning has gone on for millenia.P.S. There's no guarantee that 2 day course would be a prereq or a part of class.I know we don't do that part, and we sell thousands of CCNA classes.But regardless, we all know James is insane to try to make money that relies on discretionary spending during a recession. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />So ignore everything he says.  LOL   (j/k)</blockquote>

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