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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AngelTears" data-source="post: 449806" data-attributes="member: 8181">Sorry for posting this here, I am not a community supporter so I don't have private messaging, which would make this less obtrusive.I don't study history, so take what I say with a pinch of salt.Talvisota, I suggest you are very careful with historical texts, which have been translated from Finnish to English, especially those between 1945 and 1980, some of the information has been purposefully distorted. This is due to the Finnish habit of external self-censorship, especially with the feeling that Russia was monitoring everything Finland said or did very carefully.Also, some historical texts on the winter war done by English speakers, at least one by an American author based his study on wrongly dated maps.Only recently has any 'objective' history books been written about the Finnish civil war, now that most of those who lived through it are safely dead. I've lived in a small village outside Tampere, where the cemetary has two rows of graves facing each other, and every christmas they light a row of red and white candles on each side.-Angel Tears</blockquote>