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Message: <blockquote data-quote="adndgamer" data-source="post: 131511" data-attributes="member: 2764">I agree almost-completely with you, Eraslin, but would like to make a point about the differences in punching styles.  Yes, in karate the idea is to punch with your whole body, but this tends to limit your speed, and isn't altogether too useful, imo, when punching a punching bag.  A shoulder-generated punch will usually be much quicker than one from a traditional stance (such as a forward stance, or zenkutso-dachi (sp?)) when you use your whole body to punch.  Sure, a shoulder-generated punch won't have as much power, since you can't use your whole body most of the time, but they are effective for street fighting and the like.  You can still get pretty powerful blows off with reverse punches and the like (well, in the case of a reverse punch, you are using your body).I'm not too sure about Shotokan, but if it has any really powerful stances (such as the aforementioned forward, or zenkutso-dachi stance), there's a reason that they were like that (or so I'm told).  This is because way back in the day, somebody wearing bamboo armor would be slightly slower than an unarmored opponent, and so you would have more time to make that one powerful blow that would shatter their armor.  And so, while it was very effective in its time (and still is now if you can pull it off), I think that the emphasis on using your whole body while punching, while still important, isn't as important as it once was.  Err, rather, it's still important, but only if you can pull it off with speed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Shorin-Ryu is a traditional style, but our dojo also emphasizes street-fighting techniques as some of the traditional stuff won't necessarily be able to help you as much as more boxing-like techniques will.Anyway, it's late and as you can see, I'm rambling on here.  I'm beginning to wonder if my post will make sense to any martial artists, much less non-martial artists...As I said, it's late, and right now my brain's kinda shutting down.  This is an interesting discussion.  Hope to continue it later.  Goodnight <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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