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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 97154" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>What's all this virtual beating on my fellow B.A.D.D.-boy, Wolfspider? Just because you dislike something is no clue to bash the person making the statement.</p><p></p><p>Wolfspider, I have a feeling that you are on the receiving end of a backlash that has little to do with you. If 15 people have said that your favorite cereal sucks, and you decide that the next person to insult your preferences in this manner is really going to "get it", and then a 16th person tells you the same thing, well... BOOM! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>However, I still have to say that I disagree with most anti-Episode I and II posters, here. I went into the movies not expecting anything but fun and stunning visual elements, and I was not disappointed. I fully expect to enjoy the movie, even if the plot does not blow me away with complexity and depth. </p><p></p><p>How many reading this who disliked Episode I hated the podrace scenes? How many hated "Jinn and Tonic" fighting the battle droids aboard the Nemoidian Command ship? How many hated the final fight between Jinn and Maul?</p><p></p><p>Every one of these elements were worth the price of admission for me, as well as purchasing the VHS. I don't expect a movie to thrill me every second I see it, but I do expect to be entertained. If I want deep discussion of the human condition and pathos, and deep character exploration, I'll either read a book or play an RPG.</p><p></p><p>As for the poster who claimed that the movie should be entitled "All about the Benjamins": First, your arguments actually have little substantiation, due to Lucas' film history. This is a man who DOESN'T GIVE A **** whether his movies make money or not, if it's a pet project. Unless his fortunes really changed during the recession, Uncle George is still independantly wealthy, both for ILM and his many other projects and invenstments. Lucas is not only known for Star Wars and the first Indiana Jones film, he is also the film genius behind both <em>Willow</em> and <em>Howard the Duck.</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Neither of the latter two movies made much money at the Box office, but he fielded them because he found them fun, and he <em>wanted to do them.</em> I am one of those rare individuals who loved the Howard the Duck movie - so institutionalize me already. They miffed a few things from the comic book, but in all they captured the tongue-in-cheek feel of the first ten comic books or so. IMO, that series went downhill soon after about issue #12 anyway.</p><p></p><p>From the discussions about Ep I onward, he has not added or taken away anything that he didn't want to in the first place. (I wouldn't be surprised to see N'Sync STILL make cameo shots in AotC, with a hidden "**** you" message in the CGI part of the shots. After all, the guy's face appears in several of the EP I CGI shots, after an ILM'er put them in as a joke, and he spotted them YET left them in for fans to find.) Lucas, remember, borrowed 12 million dollars from 20th century Fox to make Star Wars, and wanted no percentage bonuses from the Movie - ONLY the toy rights. At the time, it was a risky and almost suicidal move, but it paid off for him in a BIG way.</p><p></p><p>Lucas was not a prodigy then, and isn't now - like any really good producer/filmmaker, he makes movies HE wants to see. He had the fortune of producing two movies (Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark) at a time when the U.S. and the ENTIRE WORLD needed them most.</p><p></p><p>Did Lucas make a mistake with Jar Jar Binks? Ask almost any child under ten that has not been tainted with the cynicism of parents who hated the movie, and they will tell you that Jar Jar was their favorite character in the whole movie. I asked my wife about this once, and she told me that at her Center, the two things kids mostly play in pretend games are either (A) Pokemon characters or (B) Jar Jar Binks. As adults, many fans can't stand him. As children, our favorites were R2-D2, and the aliens at Mos Eisley. And of course, the Jedi knights are cool. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Now, the Jedi are still cool, and we get to see oh so much fun stuff.</p><p></p><p>If Lucas made a mistake in Ep I, it was too much reliance on CGI. That movie's CGI effects got so much screen time, it was like watching a kid play with a new Cap Gun for christmas. Even the action and adventure segments took a backseat to the CGI. BUt then, that's my take.</p><p></p><p>First, Blade 2; then, Spider Man; then Star Wars II; finally, THE WORLD! Muah-ha-ha-ha....</p><p></p><p>Oh, sorry, wrong thought process got mixed in there...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 97154, member: 158"] What's all this virtual beating on my fellow B.A.D.D.-boy, Wolfspider? Just because you dislike something is no clue to bash the person making the statement. Wolfspider, I have a feeling that you are on the receiving end of a backlash that has little to do with you. If 15 people have said that your favorite cereal sucks, and you decide that the next person to insult your preferences in this manner is really going to "get it", and then a 16th person tells you the same thing, well... BOOM! :) However, I still have to say that I disagree with most anti-Episode I and II posters, here. I went into the movies not expecting anything but fun and stunning visual elements, and I was not disappointed. I fully expect to enjoy the movie, even if the plot does not blow me away with complexity and depth. How many reading this who disliked Episode I hated the podrace scenes? How many hated "Jinn and Tonic" fighting the battle droids aboard the Nemoidian Command ship? How many hated the final fight between Jinn and Maul? Every one of these elements were worth the price of admission for me, as well as purchasing the VHS. I don't expect a movie to thrill me every second I see it, but I do expect to be entertained. If I want deep discussion of the human condition and pathos, and deep character exploration, I'll either read a book or play an RPG. As for the poster who claimed that the movie should be entitled "All about the Benjamins": First, your arguments actually have little substantiation, due to Lucas' film history. This is a man who DOESN'T GIVE A **** whether his movies make money or not, if it's a pet project. Unless his fortunes really changed during the recession, Uncle George is still independantly wealthy, both for ILM and his many other projects and invenstments. Lucas is not only known for Star Wars and the first Indiana Jones film, he is also the film genius behind both [i]Willow[/i] and [i]Howard the Duck.[/i] :) Neither of the latter two movies made much money at the Box office, but he fielded them because he found them fun, and he [i]wanted to do them.[/i] I am one of those rare individuals who loved the Howard the Duck movie - so institutionalize me already. They miffed a few things from the comic book, but in all they captured the tongue-in-cheek feel of the first ten comic books or so. IMO, that series went downhill soon after about issue #12 anyway. From the discussions about Ep I onward, he has not added or taken away anything that he didn't want to in the first place. (I wouldn't be surprised to see N'Sync STILL make cameo shots in AotC, with a hidden "**** you" message in the CGI part of the shots. After all, the guy's face appears in several of the EP I CGI shots, after an ILM'er put them in as a joke, and he spotted them YET left them in for fans to find.) Lucas, remember, borrowed 12 million dollars from 20th century Fox to make Star Wars, and wanted no percentage bonuses from the Movie - ONLY the toy rights. At the time, it was a risky and almost suicidal move, but it paid off for him in a BIG way. Lucas was not a prodigy then, and isn't now - like any really good producer/filmmaker, he makes movies HE wants to see. He had the fortune of producing two movies (Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark) at a time when the U.S. and the ENTIRE WORLD needed them most. Did Lucas make a mistake with Jar Jar Binks? Ask almost any child under ten that has not been tainted with the cynicism of parents who hated the movie, and they will tell you that Jar Jar was their favorite character in the whole movie. I asked my wife about this once, and she told me that at her Center, the two things kids mostly play in pretend games are either (A) Pokemon characters or (B) Jar Jar Binks. As adults, many fans can't stand him. As children, our favorites were R2-D2, and the aliens at Mos Eisley. And of course, the Jedi knights are cool. :) Now, the Jedi are still cool, and we get to see oh so much fun stuff. If Lucas made a mistake in Ep I, it was too much reliance on CGI. That movie's CGI effects got so much screen time, it was like watching a kid play with a new Cap Gun for christmas. Even the action and adventure segments took a backseat to the CGI. BUt then, that's my take. First, Blade 2; then, Spider Man; then Star Wars II; finally, THE WORLD! Muah-ha-ha-ha.... Oh, sorry, wrong thought process got mixed in there... [/QUOTE]
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