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<blockquote data-quote="rpgHQ" data-source="post: 1171402" data-attributes="member: 12219"><p>Myself who cares if a monkey can vocalize or do anything else with this new tech, the tech has been proven true and doable which means not only limb replacement but devices to allow folks who cant or are very limited an ability to communicate with others better, the person strapped in a wheelchair unable to use any of their arms, hands and voice now can look forward tot he possibilities in the not so distanct futre of being able to manipulate a input device for a computer for instance without having to use a joystick in thier mouth or one of those 'sippy' devices where they piff/inhale to manipulate their wheelchair or computer. It goes beyond giving them a mechanical arm or the like. Think about it, a computer keyboard equivalant device controled via thought, no need for manual typing or mouse movement at all.</p><p></p><p>I am more interested in what such a device would look like, would it even have to look like a keyboard at all. Would it be like one of those flat keyboard mats, would there even be need of visual keys tied to the electronic connectors for each letter? would simply thinking of the letter or word be enough? Same for mouse movement on a screen, what need is there for buttons and balls or infra motion sensors when you can simply think into the device to make the mouse device move, actually what need of the cursor itself at that point except for in use in doing graphic art, and really even then would it be really needed beyond being a visual reminder? </p><p></p><p>There would be no need for any of the current input devices used for computing use by 'normal' or disabled folks at that point. Just a bit of hardware inside the computer to interface wirelesses the device attached to the persons brain.</p><p></p><p>Your TV, microwave, other appliances.</p><p></p><p>A person unable to speak becuase of disability could have a vocalizer with built in text to speech app and be able to communicate instantaneously, not having to use a device with built in phrases that they had inputted before hand.</p><p></p><p>The implications of smart monkies doesnt even come into the picture for me at this point, we have apes that learn sign language, so it stand to reason with this tech you could have them 'talk' as they can already talk as it is with sign language. Apes and chimps are smart, they can communicate with each other and with humans, they use tools and are hunter-gatherers. Whats to imply? are they human? no. But are they intelligent? yes, dolphins are too. I doubt their level of intelligence even with the ability to communicate will mean they'll start writting harry potter novels though, even their use of sign language is limited as is their ability to recognize actual words, someone else might know the actually numbers but i think its somewhere between 100 and 200 words the smartest ones can recognize and the same for the number of signs the smartest ones can make. Maybe the sign language is more, I dont know. Even if you could teach all apes sign language or jack their brains so they could speek with a device their not going to be some planet of the apes gone wild. A talking parrot is still a parrot, and a talking ape is still a ape. Teaching an ape sign language or fitting it with a device for computerized speech doesnt make the ape any smarter than what it is, it doesnt somehow enlarge that creatures capacity of mental ability. Well maybe it does stimulate the brain but you would still need so many generations to allow the apes mind to evolve further that your still talking 10's of thousands of years.</p><p></p><p>I am thinking of the implications of disabled peoples ability to communicate and interact with their environement and other people and the next generation of computers and human interfacing. Theres no need for any type of mechanical input device for a computer with this tech. PDA's no longer need touch screens or stylus to work them. The limits of such devices over a 'normal' computer with keyboard and mouse will no longer be there. Someone just came out with a harddrive thats something like an inch wide and long and maybe as thick as a quarter and holds 4gig (or is it more?). You will be able to have full blown computer sorage and processing in a nice walkman sized device now. Using glasses you have the full screen and not some 20 or 50 line screen on a PDA. Actually you have more than a normal monitor screen size effect with screen glasses. Theres some glasses out now that you can hook to your computer or tv/dvd and give the effect of a 70inch screen. So the next step would be to miniturize that tech so you could have 'flippers' like the sunglass snapons folks get that you can snap on and off or flip up. </p><p></p><p>Thats the implications I am talking about. Being able to walk around with the full resources of a desktop computer tucked snugly in a pocket or stiched into my clothing and never having to use my fingers to manipulate the computer. Maybe not me, but maybe my kids and if not them for sure their kids will be doing so.</p><p></p><p>Wonder if that means in the next decade or so folks will have to pass thru a detector or have a body search before taking their exams in schools? Then a few more decades why need a classroom at all when the class can teleconferance with the teacher wherever they are?</p><p></p><p>Those are the implications I am looking at within the next 50 years, not if a poop slinging ape will be taking my order at the burger drivethru window. </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rpgHQ, post: 1171402, member: 12219"] Myself who cares if a monkey can vocalize or do anything else with this new tech, the tech has been proven true and doable which means not only limb replacement but devices to allow folks who cant or are very limited an ability to communicate with others better, the person strapped in a wheelchair unable to use any of their arms, hands and voice now can look forward tot he possibilities in the not so distanct futre of being able to manipulate a input device for a computer for instance without having to use a joystick in thier mouth or one of those 'sippy' devices where they piff/inhale to manipulate their wheelchair or computer. It goes beyond giving them a mechanical arm or the like. Think about it, a computer keyboard equivalant device controled via thought, no need for manual typing or mouse movement at all. I am more interested in what such a device would look like, would it even have to look like a keyboard at all. Would it be like one of those flat keyboard mats, would there even be need of visual keys tied to the electronic connectors for each letter? would simply thinking of the letter or word be enough? Same for mouse movement on a screen, what need is there for buttons and balls or infra motion sensors when you can simply think into the device to make the mouse device move, actually what need of the cursor itself at that point except for in use in doing graphic art, and really even then would it be really needed beyond being a visual reminder? There would be no need for any of the current input devices used for computing use by 'normal' or disabled folks at that point. Just a bit of hardware inside the computer to interface wirelesses the device attached to the persons brain. Your TV, microwave, other appliances. A person unable to speak becuase of disability could have a vocalizer with built in text to speech app and be able to communicate instantaneously, not having to use a device with built in phrases that they had inputted before hand. The implications of smart monkies doesnt even come into the picture for me at this point, we have apes that learn sign language, so it stand to reason with this tech you could have them 'talk' as they can already talk as it is with sign language. Apes and chimps are smart, they can communicate with each other and with humans, they use tools and are hunter-gatherers. Whats to imply? are they human? no. But are they intelligent? yes, dolphins are too. I doubt their level of intelligence even with the ability to communicate will mean they'll start writting harry potter novels though, even their use of sign language is limited as is their ability to recognize actual words, someone else might know the actually numbers but i think its somewhere between 100 and 200 words the smartest ones can recognize and the same for the number of signs the smartest ones can make. Maybe the sign language is more, I dont know. Even if you could teach all apes sign language or jack their brains so they could speek with a device their not going to be some planet of the apes gone wild. A talking parrot is still a parrot, and a talking ape is still a ape. Teaching an ape sign language or fitting it with a device for computerized speech doesnt make the ape any smarter than what it is, it doesnt somehow enlarge that creatures capacity of mental ability. Well maybe it does stimulate the brain but you would still need so many generations to allow the apes mind to evolve further that your still talking 10's of thousands of years. I am thinking of the implications of disabled peoples ability to communicate and interact with their environement and other people and the next generation of computers and human interfacing. Theres no need for any type of mechanical input device for a computer with this tech. PDA's no longer need touch screens or stylus to work them. The limits of such devices over a 'normal' computer with keyboard and mouse will no longer be there. Someone just came out with a harddrive thats something like an inch wide and long and maybe as thick as a quarter and holds 4gig (or is it more?). You will be able to have full blown computer sorage and processing in a nice walkman sized device now. Using glasses you have the full screen and not some 20 or 50 line screen on a PDA. Actually you have more than a normal monitor screen size effect with screen glasses. Theres some glasses out now that you can hook to your computer or tv/dvd and give the effect of a 70inch screen. So the next step would be to miniturize that tech so you could have 'flippers' like the sunglass snapons folks get that you can snap on and off or flip up. Thats the implications I am talking about. Being able to walk around with the full resources of a desktop computer tucked snugly in a pocket or stiched into my clothing and never having to use my fingers to manipulate the computer. Maybe not me, but maybe my kids and if not them for sure their kids will be doing so. Wonder if that means in the next decade or so folks will have to pass thru a detector or have a body search before taking their exams in schools? Then a few more decades why need a classroom at all when the class can teleconferance with the teacher wherever they are? Those are the implications I am looking at within the next 50 years, not if a poop slinging ape will be taking my order at the burger drivethru window. :D [/QUOTE]
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