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<blockquote data-quote="d20Dwarf" data-source="post: 858429" data-attributes="member: 314"><p>Most issues for me are about human nature. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I just hope that someday we'll be able to find a balance between capitalism (which I wholeheartedly support) and consumerism (which is the toxic runoff produced by the fusion of capitalism and media). </p><p></p><p>(And before anyone goes off, this isn't an American problem, it's a growth pain of a wise economic system being thrust upon an unwise population and exacerbated by technology. Just look at Japan. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is correct, and it's what we need to be focused on. I think Bono and Sata...err, Kofi Annan, really trivialize the issue sometimes. It's a very complex issue. My gut feeling is that we've got to start with education, tell these people to stop having children and spreading disease! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> In many cases it is simple ignorance leading to these problems. Providing food and arms to dictators make these countries money pits instead of societies moving between the stages of industrialization. In some instances, they are moving backward.</p><p></p><p>I think the simple fact that we are *trying* to help them is often overlooked, and in the scorebook of humanity is another reason why we're the greatest nation to have ever been formed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The world's population isn't the problem, and it's not going to be the problem. In the majority of industrialized countries population has become stagnant or even regressive, it's just that the countries that are growing are doing so exponentially, adding hundreds of millions per decade. Once we bring these countries into an industrialized state, they too will level off, experience growth, and then level off again, just like every other industrialized country has done. This process will take a long time, as well as a bit of luck. Societies need strong leaders in order to reshape themselves, and so far most of these nations have been burdened in that department.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="d20Dwarf, post: 858429, member: 314"] Most issues for me are about human nature. :) I just hope that someday we'll be able to find a balance between capitalism (which I wholeheartedly support) and consumerism (which is the toxic runoff produced by the fusion of capitalism and media). (And before anyone goes off, this isn't an American problem, it's a growth pain of a wise economic system being thrust upon an unwise population and exacerbated by technology. Just look at Japan. :) ). This is correct, and it's what we need to be focused on. I think Bono and Sata...err, Kofi Annan, really trivialize the issue sometimes. It's a very complex issue. My gut feeling is that we've got to start with education, tell these people to stop having children and spreading disease! :) In many cases it is simple ignorance leading to these problems. Providing food and arms to dictators make these countries money pits instead of societies moving between the stages of industrialization. In some instances, they are moving backward. I think the simple fact that we are *trying* to help them is often overlooked, and in the scorebook of humanity is another reason why we're the greatest nation to have ever been formed. The world's population isn't the problem, and it's not going to be the problem. In the majority of industrialized countries population has become stagnant or even regressive, it's just that the countries that are growing are doing so exponentially, adding hundreds of millions per decade. Once we bring these countries into an industrialized state, they too will level off, experience growth, and then level off again, just like every other industrialized country has done. This process will take a long time, as well as a bit of luck. Societies need strong leaders in order to reshape themselves, and so far most of these nations have been burdened in that department. [/QUOTE]
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