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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2101574" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>FASA closed it's doors, SR went to WizKids, which licensed it to FanPro, therefor FanPro sort of took over. They had no idea what they were doing, and relied on the Dumpshock Clique for support in a lot of ways.</p><p></p><p>As for the "ruin it" stuff, SR's flavor has changed over the years, and IMO not for the better. I'm sure the Dumpshock folks love SR4, because the clique that runs DS is a major influence on the current incarnation of the game. Those not involved tend to want to be.</p><p></p><p>IMO, SR has taken on a bit more of a European market, and the game has changed to reflect that.</p><p></p><p>To draw a parallel, when D&D 3.5 was announced, folks said it was basically "the writers house rules". But that was simply a system. With SR4, they've houseruled the entire gameworld along with the system.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, their bland material drove me away, their SOTA stuff was bleh and I have every reason to believe the new rules tweaks will make the game worse for my tastes, and the new setting material is bound to make me cranky.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2101574, member: 2477"] FASA closed it's doors, SR went to WizKids, which licensed it to FanPro, therefor FanPro sort of took over. They had no idea what they were doing, and relied on the Dumpshock Clique for support in a lot of ways. As for the "ruin it" stuff, SR's flavor has changed over the years, and IMO not for the better. I'm sure the Dumpshock folks love SR4, because the clique that runs DS is a major influence on the current incarnation of the game. Those not involved tend to want to be. IMO, SR has taken on a bit more of a European market, and the game has changed to reflect that. To draw a parallel, when D&D 3.5 was announced, folks said it was basically "the writers house rules". But that was simply a system. With SR4, they've houseruled the entire gameworld along with the system. Anyway, their bland material drove me away, their SOTA stuff was bleh and I have every reason to believe the new rules tweaks will make the game worse for my tastes, and the new setting material is bound to make me cranky. [/QUOTE]
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