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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2107929" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>Actually, that was always one of the problems I had with SR, good karma was never a good system for advancement IMO. Saving up to buy a high ranked skill was tedious. Saving up to initiate was tedious.</p><p>The other main problem I had was the disparity between Karma (Mages, Otaku) and Cash (Samurai, Decker) advancements. The Street Sam has 1 million nuyen worth of cyber at char-gen, and in general will NEVER get his core systems upgraded. Giving him 3.5 mil in order to upgrade his wires would require the Mage to also get it for fairness.</p><p>Besides, if a runner got 3.5 million nuyen, he's better of retiring. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>If the Mage gets a Focus worth 3.5 million, he probably still can't Bond it, so it's less useful to him. His core skills also suffer compared to the Cash guys, who blow GK on skills & att's at will, while he needs spells, initiation, foci bonding and spirits.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really, you can just asign a setup, say "you all get 3 feats and 50 skill points" or whatnot. Levels are tied to Advancement, not the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2107929, member: 2477"] Actually, that was always one of the problems I had with SR, good karma was never a good system for advancement IMO. Saving up to buy a high ranked skill was tedious. Saving up to initiate was tedious. The other main problem I had was the disparity between Karma (Mages, Otaku) and Cash (Samurai, Decker) advancements. The Street Sam has 1 million nuyen worth of cyber at char-gen, and in general will NEVER get his core systems upgraded. Giving him 3.5 mil in order to upgrade his wires would require the Mage to also get it for fairness. Besides, if a runner got 3.5 million nuyen, he's better of retiring. :) If the Mage gets a Focus worth 3.5 million, he probably still can't Bond it, so it's less useful to him. His core skills also suffer compared to the Cash guys, who blow GK on skills & att's at will, while he needs spells, initiation, foci bonding and spirits. Not really, you can just asign a setup, say "you all get 3 feats and 50 skill points" or whatnot. Levels are tied to Advancement, not the rules. [/QUOTE]
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