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<blockquote data-quote="Blood Jester" data-source="post: 2109431" data-attributes="member: 922"><p>Unless a company only has the budget for one, and the topic of discussion was what <em>the publisher</em> was putting out, not what a fan site wanted to do.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As opposed to being The Same For The Sake Of Being The Same? (And I think we can agree that capitalizing each word is just silly.) For that matter, Shadowrun has long since proven that it can stand out from the pack based on flavor or 'setting material'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While I enjoy many d20 games and in no way hat d02, the idea that it is the uncontested pinnacle of game mechanics is getting very tired. And changing the game system <em>to</em> d20 is 'coming up with something different' since that is not what this game is evolving from. Improving what came before is not the same as chucking the whole system for a different one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, what fans chose to do is their business, this entire hijack from the announcement of SR 4E started over the idea that it should be published in d20, or not at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In summary, I like not having to play a wizard and cast fireball in order to grab a nice handful of d6 and roll-dem-bones. You want d20 cyberpunk, d20 Modern is already out there. For those of us who want some variety, hooray for games in other systems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blood Jester, post: 2109431, member: 922"] Unless a company only has the budget for one, and the topic of discussion was what [i]the publisher[/i] was putting out, not what a fan site wanted to do. As opposed to being The Same For The Sake Of Being The Same? (And I think we can agree that capitalizing each word is just silly.) For that matter, Shadowrun has long since proven that it can stand out from the pack based on flavor or 'setting material'. While I enjoy many d20 games and in no way hat d02, the idea that it is the uncontested pinnacle of game mechanics is getting very tired. And changing the game system [i]to[/i] d20 is 'coming up with something different' since that is not what this game is evolving from. Improving what came before is not the same as chucking the whole system for a different one. Again, what fans chose to do is their business, this entire hijack from the announcement of SR 4E started over the idea that it should be published in d20, or not at all. In summary, I like not having to play a wizard and cast fireball in order to grab a nice handful of d6 and roll-dem-bones. You want d20 cyberpunk, d20 Modern is already out there. For those of us who want some variety, hooray for games in other systems. [/QUOTE]
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