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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2109494" data-attributes="member: 2477">There are avenues besides the publisher.It's not silly, it's emphasis, and in a longer post would be acronymed. SR4 is coming, it is not staying the same. A lot of game systems survive, SR3 has been in a slump for years. Your strawman arguement that some of us want ONLY SRd20 is quite the wide net. The SR4 supporters have said that SRd20 is impossible, and that's what we're talking about. If SR's setting is good enough, it would be good in the SR system, or in the D20 System. Too many games invent new mechanics when they've run out of truely new material.It is not the pinnacle of game mechanics, so again you're inserting stuff that no one has said. SR3 is a fine system, which is being changed into something new in SR4, that something new will not be the full flavor of SR1, or SR2, or SR3. It will be different.D20 is no more inappropriate than any other system.It started with someone saying they wouldn't buy the non-D20, then other folks came along to explain how it's impossible to do an SRd20 without it sucking as SR, or as D20.I'd like for folks to recognize that both systems have their advantages and disadvantages in such cases. I've played SR since the Stuffer shack mess in SR1, and it's been fun, but that doesn't mean the system handles stuff well. By the logic in this thread, if you fixed it, it wouldn't be SR anymore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2109494, member: 2477"] There are avenues besides the publisher. It's not silly, it's emphasis, and in a longer post would be acronymed. SR4 is coming, it is not staying the same. A lot of game systems survive, SR3 has been in a slump for years. Your strawman arguement that some of us want ONLY SRd20 is quite the wide net. The SR4 supporters have said that SRd20 is impossible, and that's what we're talking about. If SR's setting is good enough, it would be good in the SR system, or in the D20 System. Too many games invent new mechanics when they've run out of truely new material. It is not the pinnacle of game mechanics, so again you're inserting stuff that no one has said. SR3 is a fine system, which is being changed into something new in SR4, that something new will not be the full flavor of SR1, or SR2, or SR3. It will be different. D20 is no more inappropriate than any other system. It started with someone saying they wouldn't buy the non-D20, then other folks came along to explain how it's impossible to do an SRd20 without it sucking as SR, or as D20. I'd like for folks to recognize that both systems have their advantages and disadvantages in such cases. I've played SR since the Stuffer shack mess in SR1, and it's been fun, but that doesn't mean the system handles stuff well. By the logic in this thread, if you fixed it, it wouldn't be SR anymore. [/QUOTE]

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