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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 2110009" data-attributes="member: 158">In a conversion I worked on, I assigned each new character six "levels" - these levels could be split up between Attributes, Skills, Resources, Race, and Magic. You could put more than three levels into an area, but it netted you nothing. It takes three levels to be a full mage, two levels to be an aspected mage or adept, and 1 or 0 get you nothing. Three levels got you the highest point-buy to make your attributes; three levels gave you the highest starting skill points; three levels got you a million Nuyen; two levels got you the Elf or Troll race, one level got you Dwarf or Ork, and zero got  you human.Every level you gained after that gave you character points you could apply to skills, or attributes, etc. All combat skills (unarmed, cyber-implant, guns, heavy weapons, etc.) started at -3 to hit. Putting in skill points made you better at it (max ranks = lvl + 3 for all skills).Action Dice (a la Spycraft) work quite well to model the boost a Karma Pool gives 'runners, especially since they refresh every game, or scene, at the GM's discretion.The Black Company Campaign Setting as well as Star Wars have magic systems that can model similar systems remarkably well. Black Company, in particular, I'm getting enamored with lately, but for a Shadowrun setting you just have Conjuration and Sorcery, which work well for such a system.For me personally, nothing will negate the ease of having one die + mods over having a dozen dice to roll, explode, re-roll, count, and compare each round. Others' mileage will vary.</blockquote>

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