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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 2112070" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>A word or two on that point: The system is easy enough to grasp, otherwise I wouldn't have attempted a conversion for it. But the system also breaks my enjoyment of a roleplaying game by reminding me that it's there. </p><p></p><p>I assume you've heard arguments by people who don't Gamemaster 3E anymore because they don't like doing up huge complicated stat blocks for the NPC's? To them, the system intrudes on their fun. In a similar manner, "buckets of dice" and worse, "buckets of dice" with rerolls and comparisons, grates on me. It's like someone reminding you constantly which actor is playing what part in a TV show constantly, instead of letting you enjoy the show. Alternately, it's like my Cowboy Bebop illustration earlier - I'd have never known what a cool show it was without a well-done English translation (and I'm sure there's some fan out there telling me I still "missed the nuances of the original"). Maybe I need to play more (I have no one in my current group with any interest in the game), but from the little I have played, I enjoy reading it far more than playing it, and that's not good for any RPG that wants my money. Therefore, unless something changes, Shadowrun ain't for me, and I'm cool with that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said I need one.., I only said it'd be cool to have one that I can play without designing it from the ground up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'll be checking into 4E's reviews at Gencon-time and see what people think of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 2112070, member: 158"] A word or two on that point: The system is easy enough to grasp, otherwise I wouldn't have attempted a conversion for it. But the system also breaks my enjoyment of a roleplaying game by reminding me that it's there. I assume you've heard arguments by people who don't Gamemaster 3E anymore because they don't like doing up huge complicated stat blocks for the NPC's? To them, the system intrudes on their fun. In a similar manner, "buckets of dice" and worse, "buckets of dice" with rerolls and comparisons, grates on me. It's like someone reminding you constantly which actor is playing what part in a TV show constantly, instead of letting you enjoy the show. Alternately, it's like my Cowboy Bebop illustration earlier - I'd have never known what a cool show it was without a well-done English translation (and I'm sure there's some fan out there telling me I still "missed the nuances of the original"). Maybe I need to play more (I have no one in my current group with any interest in the game), but from the little I have played, I enjoy reading it far more than playing it, and that's not good for any RPG that wants my money. Therefore, unless something changes, Shadowrun ain't for me, and I'm cool with that. I never said I need one.., I only said it'd be cool to have one that I can play without designing it from the ground up. :) I'll be checking into 4E's reviews at Gencon-time and see what people think of it. [/QUOTE]
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