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<blockquote data-quote="Lobo Lurker" data-source="post: 2112091" data-attributes="member: 25172"><p>I used to play ShadowRun back in college. I LOVE the setting and the dice mechanics make it fun... but combat does take HOURS to get through.</p><p></p><p>Before saying anything else about a D20 version of ShadowRun I just wanted to point out one very important observation (one that WotC itself seems to forget): <span style="color: DarkOrange"><em>The D20 System is NOT Dungeon & Dragons. Dungeons & Dragons USES the D20 System.</em></span> You know, I'd go so far as to say that Mutants & Masterminds is <span style="color: DarkOrange"><em>MORE</em></span> D20ish than D&D is.</p><p></p><p>That said:</p><p>1) Would there be any benefit for making a D20 version of ShadowRun?</p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">Yes. If this topic comes up so often then it is obvious that <em>someone</em> out there would like to play a D20 version of Shadowrun. Obviously market research would need to be done, but this might actually make a good product for a one-shot PDF (no/very reduced printing and distribution costs for an obviously niche product).</span></p><p></p><p>2) In such a version (not necessarily <em>conversion)</em>) would the feel of the game change?</p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">Of course. This has been stated to death above and doesn't really need to be repeated here. But for all of you against a D20 Shadowrun, why fight about it? There are those here that want a product and would pay for it. Would such a product's existance keep you from using your 1E, 2E, 3E, or 4E books?</span></p><p></p><p>3) Would the change in the feel of the resolution mechanic compromise the setting?</p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">You know, I don't think that it would. As has been stated before, the setting is just that; The setting. Its where the action takes place and where the players run amok. What does a dice resolution mechanic have to do with how the UCAS reacted when Bug City happened to Chicago? </span></p><p></p><p>Personally, I like 2E Shadowrun (I haven't played 1E or 3E). I also like DnD & MnM. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like the challenge of designing a D20 version of SR (<em>though I secretly believe that White Wolf's new Storytelling system would be an easier conversion</em>)... from the amount of posts this thread alone has generated there seem to be those among us that see merit in the idea of a D20 Shadowrun game.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, just my three nuyen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lobo Lurker, post: 2112091, member: 25172"] I used to play ShadowRun back in college. I LOVE the setting and the dice mechanics make it fun... but combat does take HOURS to get through. Before saying anything else about a D20 version of ShadowRun I just wanted to point out one very important observation (one that WotC itself seems to forget): [COLOR=DarkOrange][i]The D20 System is NOT Dungeon & Dragons. Dungeons & Dragons USES the D20 System.[/i][/COLOR] You know, I'd go so far as to say that Mutants & Masterminds is [COLOR=DarkOrange][i]MORE[/i][/COLOR] D20ish than D&D is. That said: 1) Would there be any benefit for making a D20 version of ShadowRun? [COLOR=DarkOrange]Yes. If this topic comes up so often then it is obvious that [i]someone[/i] out there would like to play a D20 version of Shadowrun. Obviously market research would need to be done, but this might actually make a good product for a one-shot PDF (no/very reduced printing and distribution costs for an obviously niche product).[/COLOR] 2) In such a version (not necessarily [i]conversion)[/i]) would the feel of the game change? [COLOR=DarkOrange]Of course. This has been stated to death above and doesn't really need to be repeated here. But for all of you against a D20 Shadowrun, why fight about it? There are those here that want a product and would pay for it. Would such a product's existance keep you from using your 1E, 2E, 3E, or 4E books?[/COLOR] 3) Would the change in the feel of the resolution mechanic compromise the setting? [COLOR=DarkOrange]You know, I don't think that it would. As has been stated before, the setting is just that; The setting. Its where the action takes place and where the players run amok. What does a dice resolution mechanic have to do with how the UCAS reacted when Bug City happened to Chicago? [/COLOR] Personally, I like 2E Shadowrun (I haven't played 1E or 3E). I also like DnD & MnM. But that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like the challenge of designing a D20 version of SR ([i]though I secretly believe that White Wolf's new Storytelling system would be an easier conversion[/i])... from the amount of posts this thread alone has generated there seem to be those among us that see merit in the idea of a D20 Shadowrun game. Anyhow, just my three nuyen. [/QUOTE]
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