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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2126444" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>Considering the responses the SR Loyalists have received from the NewSR types on different occasions, you should expect some hostility. It is not idiocy, simply emotion.</p><p></p><p>Like I said earlier, at some point you have to link the material to the author. The comments about SR4 are more related to the handling of the SR3 material as well as the SR4 decisions. Not that I'm endorsing them Rotting anywhere, just like I don't endorse comments of Idiocy or Sillyness.</p><p></p><p>The discussion is an old one, and can be summed up simply enough for my end. The current direction of SR is different than the old, in a bad way. The responses range from "it has evolved" to "it hasn't changed" from the same person in a paragraph before. Now, removing deckers from the game and adding their place to Riggers, and renaming the symbiote a "hacker" is somehow not removing the deckers.</p><p></p><p>The NewSR folks won't admit to changes being changes. But you know what, if SR3 is selling better under FanPro than it did under FASA, then I'm the one in the wrong. No matter what my opinion on flavor, sales are what dictate the games success.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure SR4 will sell well at first, we'll see how the long run treats it.</p><p></p><p>So, if OD&D was a better selling game than D&D3.5, perhaps Diaglo is right, but somehow I doubt that's the case. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2126444, member: 2477"] Considering the responses the SR Loyalists have received from the NewSR types on different occasions, you should expect some hostility. It is not idiocy, simply emotion. Like I said earlier, at some point you have to link the material to the author. The comments about SR4 are more related to the handling of the SR3 material as well as the SR4 decisions. Not that I'm endorsing them Rotting anywhere, just like I don't endorse comments of Idiocy or Sillyness. The discussion is an old one, and can be summed up simply enough for my end. The current direction of SR is different than the old, in a bad way. The responses range from "it has evolved" to "it hasn't changed" from the same person in a paragraph before. Now, removing deckers from the game and adding their place to Riggers, and renaming the symbiote a "hacker" is somehow not removing the deckers. The NewSR folks won't admit to changes being changes. But you know what, if SR3 is selling better under FanPro than it did under FASA, then I'm the one in the wrong. No matter what my opinion on flavor, sales are what dictate the games success. I'm sure SR4 will sell well at first, we'll see how the long run treats it. So, if OD&D was a better selling game than D&D3.5, perhaps Diaglo is right, but somehow I doubt that's the case. :) [/QUOTE]
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