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<blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 455701" data-attributes="member: 5171"><p>An excellent point. Faith ain't a problem for me, but the Big Sword of Merciless Logic is going to cut right through it. Possibly, in geek terms, because the Big Sword is great at whacking things that are in the real world, but faith ain't in the real world. In the scope of this discussion, it's an incorporeal creature -- and Logic ain't magical or a force effect. As I said, possibly.</p><p></p><p>(Again, my opinion, and only such.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True. There's definitely a point where it gets subjective and tricky and such. My argument is that we're nowhere near that point -- that if he is serious, anybody with a firm handle on reality is going to agree that he has issues that need to be dealt with, just on the off chance that he might suddenly decide to shoot Ronald Reagan to prove how much he loved Jodie Foster or something. Or just to help him avoid growing up alone and ostracized because he took a wrong turn and went a little bit too far into the depths of the reality-denial neighborhoods of geekville.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True. It's what you think you're worshipping. If it came out tomorrow that Jesus had been a popular fable told in taverns by long-haired guys to try and get chicks into bed, it would be interesting to see what happened next in terms of world religions.</p><p></p><p>But we're not dealing with that situation, or yours -- although it's definitely interesting (and I think several SF shows have dealt with it with varying degrees of success). If your Big Sword of Merciless Logic isn't too big for dual-wielding, might I suggest using Occam's Razor as an off-hand weapon?</p><p></p><p>Which is more likely? That he's stumbled into the True God, or a mode of powerful belief that just happened to come from the flavor text of the Player's Handbook, and that St. Cuthbert (or the power of the lad's belief in St. Cuthbert and his ideals) is a real and true and spiritually fulfilling and healthy thing?</p><p></p><p>Or that he's a lonely dude who needs to go play outside for a bit?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>-Tacky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="takyris, post: 455701, member: 5171"] An excellent point. Faith ain't a problem for me, but the Big Sword of Merciless Logic is going to cut right through it. Possibly, in geek terms, because the Big Sword is great at whacking things that are in the real world, but faith ain't in the real world. In the scope of this discussion, it's an incorporeal creature -- and Logic ain't magical or a force effect. As I said, possibly. (Again, my opinion, and only such.) True. There's definitely a point where it gets subjective and tricky and such. My argument is that we're nowhere near that point -- that if he is serious, anybody with a firm handle on reality is going to agree that he has issues that need to be dealt with, just on the off chance that he might suddenly decide to shoot Ronald Reagan to prove how much he loved Jodie Foster or something. Or just to help him avoid growing up alone and ostracized because he took a wrong turn and went a little bit too far into the depths of the reality-denial neighborhoods of geekville. True. It's what you think you're worshipping. If it came out tomorrow that Jesus had been a popular fable told in taverns by long-haired guys to try and get chicks into bed, it would be interesting to see what happened next in terms of world religions. But we're not dealing with that situation, or yours -- although it's definitely interesting (and I think several SF shows have dealt with it with varying degrees of success). If your Big Sword of Merciless Logic isn't too big for dual-wielding, might I suggest using Occam's Razor as an off-hand weapon? Which is more likely? That he's stumbled into the True God, or a mode of powerful belief that just happened to come from the flavor text of the Player's Handbook, and that St. Cuthbert (or the power of the lad's belief in St. Cuthbert and his ideals) is a real and true and spiritually fulfilling and healthy thing? Or that he's a lonely dude who needs to go play outside for a bit? :) -Tacky [/QUOTE]
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