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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 195179" data-attributes="member: 1">Bleh.  When the facts don't exist to make his case he feels free to make assumptions; when the facts actually contradict his case, then he says that the character in question is therefore "lying".Not only that, but the elitist jedi society vs. the meritocracy of the Empire argument is rubbish.   As he says, people go to Empire acadamies, and those of a certain talent are promoted.  In the jedi order, it's exactly the same - those with a certain talent become jedi.  His only distinction is that the jedi criteria is genetic while the Imperial criteria is not - but I don't see anything different between being a person born as "officer material" and a person born with "a high midichlorian count".  Also, nowhere in any film does it say that only certain poeple can use the force.  Just because Qui Gonn said that Anakin had a higher midichlorian count than Yoda doesn't mean that the general populace don't have midichlorians.  Ban Kenobi even offered to teach the force to Han Solo in Ep. IV.  I see no evidence to indicate that jediship is only allowed to certain "genetically superior" beings; in fact the jedi council wanted to refuse admission to Anakin who had the highest count of all.  The impression I get is that they'd rather have balanced but less talented members than unstable yet powerful.  The deciding factor appears to be attitude, not midichlorian count.And finally - where does he get the idea that jedi are the equivalent of the Imperial ruling body?  The jedi are a police force, not a government (and I'm sure Republic has regular police too).  The government is the Senate, and anyone can technically become a senator.</blockquote>

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