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<blockquote data-quote="Frostmarrow" data-source="post: 90632" data-attributes="member: 1122"><p>Outlawing hate propaganda is not the same thing as limiting a citizen's freedom of speach. Chances are the laws already cover such crimes from another angle. It is illegal to threaten people even in USA. It is illegal to instigate a crime even in USA. The countries that have outlawed hate propaganda is merely highlighting a crime which is illegal anyway. In Sweden for example I can still have opinions about immigration, foreigners or what have you. What I can't do is propagate that certain people should be beaten or murdered. The reason for this is that violence begets violence. Hate begets hate. The swastika for example is considered to be a symbol for instigating crime. The symbol reads "Let's reinstate Auswitch". By wearing it I am an offender of laws aimed to protect people. You can still use the symbol for use in research, art or journalism. </p><p></p><p>Western countries, or any countries for that matter, see things in pretty much the same way. The laws may differ of course, but that is mainly due to differences in legal system. Sweden for example does not use jurys like USA does. This makes the laws a bit different and the way to approach criminals with charges varies from country to country. However, the aim is always to protect the innocent yet allow the greatest amount of individual freedom.</p><p></p><p>I'm not worried that my freedom of speech is threatened. In this particular case with Aftonbladet I think the court made a wrong decision. You can't stop people from debating and if I can't do it at home I'll do it on American soil. As I stated earlier I think the verdict will be changed in the Supreme Court. It might interest you to know that the server this board is operated on is situated right here in my hometown Katrineholm, Sweden. (At least last time I checked). That means that Morrus indeed is responsible for any hate propaganda on these boards and is subject to Swedish legislation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frostmarrow, post: 90632, member: 1122"] Outlawing hate propaganda is not the same thing as limiting a citizen's freedom of speach. Chances are the laws already cover such crimes from another angle. It is illegal to threaten people even in USA. It is illegal to instigate a crime even in USA. The countries that have outlawed hate propaganda is merely highlighting a crime which is illegal anyway. In Sweden for example I can still have opinions about immigration, foreigners or what have you. What I can't do is propagate that certain people should be beaten or murdered. The reason for this is that violence begets violence. Hate begets hate. The swastika for example is considered to be a symbol for instigating crime. The symbol reads "Let's reinstate Auswitch". By wearing it I am an offender of laws aimed to protect people. You can still use the symbol for use in research, art or journalism. Western countries, or any countries for that matter, see things in pretty much the same way. The laws may differ of course, but that is mainly due to differences in legal system. Sweden for example does not use jurys like USA does. This makes the laws a bit different and the way to approach criminals with charges varies from country to country. However, the aim is always to protect the innocent yet allow the greatest amount of individual freedom. I'm not worried that my freedom of speech is threatened. In this particular case with Aftonbladet I think the court made a wrong decision. You can't stop people from debating and if I can't do it at home I'll do it on American soil. As I stated earlier I think the verdict will be changed in the Supreme Court. It might interest you to know that the server this board is operated on is situated right here in my hometown Katrineholm, Sweden. (At least last time I checked). That means that Morrus indeed is responsible for any hate propaganda on these boards and is subject to Swedish legislation. [/QUOTE]
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