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<blockquote data-quote="Berandor" data-source="post: 90823" data-attributes="member: 225"><p>To Germany: You can depict or use a swastika, but only in a historical work, like a documentary, a movie that is set in that time, or with this subculture as protagonists now, or the like.</p><p></p><p>A movie like "American History X" is perfectly legal here.</p><p></p><p>As to the freedom of speech:</p><p>I think the dilemma is that it is impossible to have total freedom for all, because there comes the point where you hinder another one's freedom by your own.</p><p>There is also the point that words, especially well-crafted words, can incite crimes and spoil other people.</p><p>Hitler didn't come to power because everybody wnated to kill Jews, or because he had such great plans, or a good agenda.</p><p>He was an incredibly charismatic speaker.</p><p>When he held speeches over the radio, people would flock to the transistor. He was able to instill a variety of emotions in short time just by making a good speech.</p><p></p><p>The danger of words is sometimes, I believe, underestimated in some countries. That's why Germany, at least, has outlawed certain statements to be made <strong>publicly.</strong></p><p>If you continue talking about Jewish conspiracies, some people will start to belive it, and perhaps go and hurt, or kill someone.</p><p>Of course, even in Germany only the most heinous crimes cannot be talked about <em>publicly</em>.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, racist remarks are a sore point in Germany, and we have to look out very much at what exactly people say or do, or we would get into bad press faster than you would think.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if a German pupil would say he hated his teacher and wishes her dead, he wouldn't be treated as harsh as in the US, because school killings are a sore point for your country.</p><p></p><p>I don't think our countries differ from each other that much, I think many Americans hold to their absolute freedom of speech where it doesn't really exist anymore. You may still be a bit more lenient in most areas, but in some you are even stricter than other countries... it just isn't openly admitted because the right to free speech is one of the most important American beliefs.</p><p></p><p>Berandor</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Berandor, post: 90823, member: 225"] To Germany: You can depict or use a swastika, but only in a historical work, like a documentary, a movie that is set in that time, or with this subculture as protagonists now, or the like. A movie like "American History X" is perfectly legal here. As to the freedom of speech: I think the dilemma is that it is impossible to have total freedom for all, because there comes the point where you hinder another one's freedom by your own. There is also the point that words, especially well-crafted words, can incite crimes and spoil other people. Hitler didn't come to power because everybody wnated to kill Jews, or because he had such great plans, or a good agenda. He was an incredibly charismatic speaker. When he held speeches over the radio, people would flock to the transistor. He was able to instill a variety of emotions in short time just by making a good speech. The danger of words is sometimes, I believe, underestimated in some countries. That's why Germany, at least, has outlawed certain statements to be made [b]publicly.[/b] If you continue talking about Jewish conspiracies, some people will start to belive it, and perhaps go and hurt, or kill someone. Of course, even in Germany only the most heinous crimes cannot be talked about [i]publicly[/i]. Additionally, racist remarks are a sore point in Germany, and we have to look out very much at what exactly people say or do, or we would get into bad press faster than you would think. On the other hand, if a German pupil would say he hated his teacher and wishes her dead, he wouldn't be treated as harsh as in the US, because school killings are a sore point for your country. I don't think our countries differ from each other that much, I think many Americans hold to their absolute freedom of speech where it doesn't really exist anymore. You may still be a bit more lenient in most areas, but in some you are even stricter than other countries... it just isn't openly admitted because the right to free speech is one of the most important American beliefs. Berandor [/QUOTE]
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