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[OT] The Second Thread on that Star Wars Salon article
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<blockquote data-quote="mattcolville" data-source="post: 147029" data-attributes="member: 1300"><p>That artile makes two really good points. First, Leigh Brackett was a profoundly good and popular writer who doesn't get enough credit, any credit really, for Empire.</p><p></p><p>Second, Lucas does not credit his real influences enough. True.</p><p></p><p>But this:</p><p></p><p>[QUOTE/]<strong>Campbell specialized in treating religious imagery as a set of metaphors divorced from historical context, a method that allowed him to talk, for example, about the Crucifixion as symbolizing the tree of life in an agrarian society, when in fact it was a very concrete reference to a particularly atrocious form of execution, rooted in a very specific period. Campbell's ability to generate whirlwinds of cross-cultural references makes his chatter sound tremendously erudite -- his disarming style reduced Moyers to an awestruck supplicant in the "Power of Myth" series -- but once the dust settles it's hard to grasp the point of it all.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>First, this guy dislikes Campbell either because he doesn't understand it, or because he's really pissed at Lucas and Campbell gets heat by association. Frankly, if the author was already sick of hearing about Campbell, he probably wasn't interested in Campbell's ideas anyway.</p><p></p><p>But A: Campbell thinks that the *reason* the *idea* of Christ on the Cross passed from a fable into the subconsiousness of millions of people is because there's a nautal place in our minds for the idea of the Tree of Life, and the Cross has some resonance with the Tree of Life. The author doesn't seem to understand what "symbolize" means. </p><p></p><p>B: The point of Campbells hypothesese is that all humans, by virtue of the commonality of the human experience, have a need for a collection of symbols that help make meaning of the experience. And those symbols are universal. This idea is widely misunderstood.</p><p></p><p>I agree with the author. Lucas has grafted the Campbellian view onto something afterwards. But I also agree with Campbell, the *reason* Star Wars is so popular is because it *also* works as Myth. And man will always have a need for Myth. Man doesn't have a need for Sci-Fi. I do, yes, but not everyone on earth. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="mattcolville, post: 147029, member: 1300"] That artile makes two really good points. First, Leigh Brackett was a profoundly good and popular writer who doesn't get enough credit, any credit really, for Empire. Second, Lucas does not credit his real influences enough. True. But this: [QUOTE/][B]Campbell specialized in treating religious imagery as a set of metaphors divorced from historical context, a method that allowed him to talk, for example, about the Crucifixion as symbolizing the tree of life in an agrarian society, when in fact it was a very concrete reference to a particularly atrocious form of execution, rooted in a very specific period. Campbell's ability to generate whirlwinds of cross-cultural references makes his chatter sound tremendously erudite -- his disarming style reduced Moyers to an awestruck supplicant in the "Power of Myth" series -- but once the dust settles it's hard to grasp the point of it all.[/QUOTE][/B] First, this guy dislikes Campbell either because he doesn't understand it, or because he's really pissed at Lucas and Campbell gets heat by association. Frankly, if the author was already sick of hearing about Campbell, he probably wasn't interested in Campbell's ideas anyway. But A: Campbell thinks that the *reason* the *idea* of Christ on the Cross passed from a fable into the subconsiousness of millions of people is because there's a nautal place in our minds for the idea of the Tree of Life, and the Cross has some resonance with the Tree of Life. The author doesn't seem to understand what "symbolize" means. B: The point of Campbells hypothesese is that all humans, by virtue of the commonality of the human experience, have a need for a collection of symbols that help make meaning of the experience. And those symbols are universal. This idea is widely misunderstood. I agree with the author. Lucas has grafted the Campbellian view onto something afterwards. But I also agree with Campbell, the *reason* Star Wars is so popular is because it *also* works as Myth. And man will always have a need for Myth. Man doesn't have a need for Sci-Fi. I do, yes, but not everyone on earth. :) [/QUOTE]
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