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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kengar" data-source="post: 538493" data-attributes="member: 3230">Saw the movie last night. Felt there were a few rough patches and -frankly- a few parts that didn't even really make sense to have in. Overall,I enjoyed the film. I was BLOWN AWAY by the first movie, though. To be fair, I have seen FOTR several times now so it might be unjust to compare the two after seeing TTT only once. As a film on its own merits, IMHO, it was quite good. It did deviate from JRRT significantly in a few places. Without getting into TOO many spoilers or "book v. film: which is better?", here are my good, bad & the ugly:Good:The sets at Helm's Deep, Edoras & Fangorn forest were terrific. I was especially impressed by the forest. I had always had difficulty imagining it, but PJ did a great job creating an image that fit perfectly.Gollum was PERFECT. He avoided the JarJar syndrome and was a real character with feelings and conflicts. Slinker v. Stinker was done creatively and true to the spirit. (btw Celebrim, Faramir found out about the ring from questioning Gollum).Elijah Wood's portrayal of the Ring's growing influence over him. As well as his desire to see Smeagol redeemed.The action scenes were visually exciting. A bit over the top compared to FOTR in places, but the TTT book was more action-packed too. Battle of Helm's Deep set a new standard for film in battle scenes. The wargs were frightening, the Ents looked & moved like they should. Gandalf v. Balrog: 'nuff said <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Eowyn was a pleasant surprise. I expected cheesecake, but the actress did a great job bringing her character to life. Theoden's scene at the grave was beautifully done.The Black Gate. W<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />W!The Bad:Aragorn & the river. Why?? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> The whole scene with the Elves & Arwen, etc. It was confusing and deviated from the book in a major way without serving any easily understood purpose. Though the bit about what would happen if she married Aragorn and he got old was done very true to the appendices. (That & Liv Tyler in the gauzy gown were OK <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )Gimli was a little too comic, but John Rhys-Davies is a such an amazing character actor that he's fun to watch no matter what. At least the "counting game" was included.The "healing" of Theoden was a little bit corny. But I had more difficulty with the whole bit where Aragorn, Legolas & Gimli beat up the guards than I did with Gandalf & Theoden.Sam's little speech towards the end. It was useful to allow some scene-jumping I suppose, but seemed a bit preachy.The Ugly:Faramir. Without a doubt, the worst part of the film was the way Faramir was portrayed. No slam on the actor, but it was a major shift from the character as written in the book and not for any discernable reason. PS: As far as some folks' concerns about Shelob: bah! I think the way PJ set it up with Gollum's muttering at the end was a much better choice for the films.</blockquote>

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