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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JRRNeiklot" data-source="post: 539549" data-attributes="member: 717">I'm going to have to side with Celebrim on this one.  While I think it was a "good" movie and worth the price of admission, it could have been so much better.  My gripes:  Gimli is a joke, the Jar-Jar of the film.  He was my favorite character in LOTR and he was reduced to comic relief.The meeting of the three hunters with the riders of Rohan.  What happenned to the mention of Galadriel?  Gimli and Eomer make a pact to postpone their fight until after Eomer has looked upon Galadriel.  This is one of the defining moments of Gimli's character.  Of course, if you're nothing more than a court jester, your character needs no defining.Faramir.  They dropped the ball on this big time.  Who the hell was that?  Faramir was the most noble character in the whole damned book.  Sam even said he had an air about him similar to that of Gandalf.  In the movie he was more akin to Saruman.  I can't believe that the noble Eowyn can ever fall for such a creep as Faramir.The journey to Osgilath.  Why add this?  It serves absolutely no purpose but to further demean Faramirs character.   Then the ringwraith.  Sauruman knows who has the ring now, wtf was that all about?  Aragorn's fall from the cliff.  Redundant.  Served no purpose.The Elves at Helm's Deep.  Why?Gollum.  He started off fine, but at moments diressed into too much of a Jar-Jar.The sudden kung-fu-esque abilities of Arragorn, Gimli, and Legolas at Edoras.  Again, should be axed.The disarmament at the gates.  Gimli's axe was worth a king's ransom, The Bow of Galadriel, which has yet to be mentioned, and where is Anduril?  This was a great scene that was cut for no purpose except to allow time to screw over Faramir and make Gimli fall down a couple more times.Where was Erkenbrand?Why was Hama never mentioned by name, except in reference to his girly-like son?Merryand Pippin.  No mention of the Entwash.  No mention of the way they tricked the orcs into believing they had the "precious."  The Ents had to be talked into attacking Saruman?  Wtf?  And they did more than tear down a dike.  They redirected the course of an entire river, for christ's sake!  And no Quickbeam.Shadowfax.  He just appears out of nowhere at Gandalf's call.  Explain, please.I'm sure there are many more discrepancies.  Some of these could be disregarded as minor, but if they had cut the more stupid crap out, there would have been time for all of the proper characterization and then some.Tolkien must be rolling over in his grave.</blockquote>

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