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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Tree" data-source="post: 552621" data-attributes="member: 1455"><p>It's odd, but even though I feel TTT is overall a weaker movie than FotR, it has less things that <em>really</em> bug me. The pointless and formulaic staircase scene, the overdone and incomprehensible rotoscoped Galariel scene, and the lack of the Galadriel gift giving in the theatrical release all irritate me less than the aspects of TTT that I don't like.</p><p></p><p>Of all the changes and additions, only the pointless Aragorn falling off a cliff scene irritates me like the above FotR scenes.</p><p></p><p>Some scenes are even - gasp- better than in the original book. The scene between Elrond and Arwen is much more powerful and significant than its equivalent in the books, which IIRC is little more than "Arwen and her father spent the night talking, and had a bitter parting" and some exposition in the appendixes. The elves aiding in helm's deep also IMO may be an improvement, as it makes the battle that much more poinient to see elves, who have lived for thousands of years and would have lived for thousands more, laying down their lives in defense of humanity. It's not the vision of elves that Tolkien had, but it's a valid one given the history of his mythos.</p><p></p><p>Other scenes simply wouldn't work as well on film the way they were in the book. If the ents had a long discussion, and then just decided to go attack Isengard, as they did in the book, then it would show neither the Ents self isolation and conservativeness or their terrible wrath as strongly, nor would merry and pippin's role be as active or important. Tolkien could show these things with lots of exposition and detailed description, but those are not tools available to filmmakers.</p><p></p><p>I'm not crazy about the changes in Faramir, but I suspect that PJ made them to be more dramatic. Having him face the same test as Boromir, and fall under the terrible sway of the ring, but ultimately pass the test and rise above the temptation, is much more cinematically powerful than just having him seemingly immune from the beginning. It makes him more human, and makes his choice to let Sam and Frodo free that much more significant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Tree, post: 552621, member: 1455"] It's odd, but even though I feel TTT is overall a weaker movie than FotR, it has less things that [i]really[/i] bug me. The pointless and formulaic staircase scene, the overdone and incomprehensible rotoscoped Galariel scene, and the lack of the Galadriel gift giving in the theatrical release all irritate me less than the aspects of TTT that I don't like. Of all the changes and additions, only the pointless Aragorn falling off a cliff scene irritates me like the above FotR scenes. Some scenes are even - gasp- better than in the original book. The scene between Elrond and Arwen is much more powerful and significant than its equivalent in the books, which IIRC is little more than "Arwen and her father spent the night talking, and had a bitter parting" and some exposition in the appendixes. The elves aiding in helm's deep also IMO may be an improvement, as it makes the battle that much more poinient to see elves, who have lived for thousands of years and would have lived for thousands more, laying down their lives in defense of humanity. It's not the vision of elves that Tolkien had, but it's a valid one given the history of his mythos. Other scenes simply wouldn't work as well on film the way they were in the book. If the ents had a long discussion, and then just decided to go attack Isengard, as they did in the book, then it would show neither the Ents self isolation and conservativeness or their terrible wrath as strongly, nor would merry and pippin's role be as active or important. Tolkien could show these things with lots of exposition and detailed description, but those are not tools available to filmmakers. I'm not crazy about the changes in Faramir, but I suspect that PJ made them to be more dramatic. Having him face the same test as Boromir, and fall under the terrible sway of the ring, but ultimately pass the test and rise above the temptation, is much more cinematically powerful than just having him seemingly immune from the beginning. It makes him more human, and makes his choice to let Sam and Frodo free that much more significant. [/QUOTE]
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