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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadow" data-source="post: 223651" data-attributes="member: 2182">A while back I started thinking about the whole "does the system encourages role-play, or is role-playing independent of the system" debate that has been raging on these boards.  All the sudden I came up with a twisted idea to test this theory.  Play Vampire: the Masquerade (or Vampire: the Dark Ages) as a dungeon crawl!I've heard that D&D promotes hack and slash, yet I have known groups that really get into heavy role playing when playing D&D.  Heck, I've even played in a D&D session once without any combat (or even the option of combat.)  So the question is, if people can  make a D&D session into deep immersiom storytelling, can people likewise turn a session of Vampire (long thought to be the paradigm of roleplaying) into hack and slash and dungeon crawl?  In many ways Vampire lends itself well to hack and slash.  Vampires have "levels" (represented by their age) and races (clans) just like in D&D.  I could imagine an adventure where a the PCs are ordered by their clan to raid a rival clans comound.  However, my current group doesn't want to have anything to do with Vampire, and most Vampire players that I know refuse to play hack and slash.  Has anyone tried playing a dungeon crawl/ hack and slash Vampire adventure?  If so, I would like to know the results.</blockquote>