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<blockquote data-quote="Heap Thaumaturgist" data-source="post: 302425" data-attributes="member: 4516">In general, false.There are some fat happy people, I'm sure.&nbsp; It's sort of an archtype ... fat jolly people.Being obese in America is a complex thing.&nbsp; You don't see alot of fat people on TV.&nbsp; If you do, they're in specific roles ... usually ones that, at the end of the movie, you see the credits go by and : &quot;Fat Man played by John Dough&quot;.&nbsp; Well, great.&nbsp; The fat guy was, well, The Fat Guy.&nbsp; Not alot of important parts to play in cinema or TV for fat people.&nbsp; (They ... we ... make bad action stars, anyway.)&nbsp; (Other than Sammo Hung).Fat people are &quot;accepted&quot; because they have to be, especially in the 30+ set where people are begining to settle down, have their lives locked in, and will be doing pretty much what they are now for the rest of their lives.I was &quot;The Fat Kid&quot; from about 2nd Grade on.&nbsp; Obese people get their own little &quot;class&quot; of people.&nbsp; Think about it.&nbsp; The stereotype of the funny fat kid is usually a defense mechanism against teasing, rejection, and feelings of low self-worth engendered from living in a society and culture that PRODUCES fat people, but idolizes thinness.&nbsp; I didn't get teased as much as most, but that's because I had a reputation as a head-breaker and I'd beat the snot out of two or three kids at the time ... because I could, and I was angry.&nbsp; Didn't know why, but I was.&nbsp; Then you hit puberty and the $*#( really hits the fan.&nbsp; Nobody is attracted to fat people.&nbsp; Fat people aren't even attracted to fat people.&nbsp; People, really, aren't even attracted to &quot;normal&quot; people.&nbsp; It's another stereotype, another &quot;classing&quot; ... You can date a girl who is annoying, stupid, and not very attractive ... as long as she isn't fat ... then you're dating &quot;A Fat Chick&quot;.&nbsp; I remember watching a movie with a feminist studies class (being the only man in there) and a female friend of mine (perfect body, surgically enhanced) walked in and was watching the movie with us.&nbsp; There was a woman in the movie who was nude ... she had a totally &quot;average&quot; body shape.&nbsp; Not fat, but normal for any random woman who ate right but didn't work out.&nbsp; No flab, but no defined abs or sculpted calves.&nbsp; Nobody thought anything of it but my friend said:&nbsp; &quot;Oh my God.&nbsp; If I were that fat I so wouldn't be naked on camera.&nbsp; Why are they showing that?&quot;America idolizes thin.&nbsp; We just produce fat.&nbsp; It doesn't mean we love fat, or even accept it.&nbsp; We push the fat off into a corner and complain about how fat America is.--HT</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Heap Thaumaturgist, post: 302425, member: 4516"] In general, false. There are some fat happy people, I'm sure. It's sort of an archtype ... fat jolly people. Being obese in America is a complex thing. You don't see alot of fat people on TV. If you do, they're in specific roles ... usually ones that, at the end of the movie, you see the credits go by and : "Fat Man played by John Dough". Well, great. The fat guy was, well, The Fat Guy. Not alot of important parts to play in cinema or TV for fat people. (They ... we ... make bad action stars, anyway.) (Other than Sammo Hung). Fat people are "accepted" because they have to be, especially in the 30+ set where people are begining to settle down, have their lives locked in, and will be doing pretty much what they are now for the rest of their lives. I was "The Fat Kid" from about 2nd Grade on. Obese people get their own little "class" of people. Think about it. The stereotype of the funny fat kid is usually a defense mechanism against teasing, rejection, and feelings of low self-worth engendered from living in a society and culture that PRODUCES fat people, but idolizes thinness. I didn't get teased as much as most, but that's because I had a reputation as a head-breaker and I'd beat the snot out of two or three kids at the time ... because I could, and I was angry. Didn't know why, but I was. Then you hit puberty and the $*#( really hits the fan. Nobody is attracted to fat people. Fat people aren't even attracted to fat people. People, really, aren't even attracted to "normal" people. It's another stereotype, another "classing" ... You can date a girl who is annoying, stupid, and not very attractive ... as long as she isn't fat ... then you're dating "A Fat Chick". I remember watching a movie with a feminist studies class (being the only man in there) and a female friend of mine (perfect body, surgically enhanced) walked in and was watching the movie with us. There was a woman in the movie who was nude ... she had a totally "average" body shape. Not fat, but normal for any random woman who ate right but didn't work out. No flab, but no defined abs or sculpted calves. Nobody thought anything of it but my friend said: "Oh my God. If I were that fat I so wouldn't be naked on camera. Why are they showing that?" America idolizes thin. We just produce fat. It doesn't mean we love fat, or even accept it. We push the fat off into a corner and complain about how fat America is. --HT [/QUOTE]

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