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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Warchild" data-source="post: 302569" data-attributes="member: 769">I agree with the someone who mentioned soda (or maybe he said pop. LOL). I played footbal in school (both kinds) and was a hard body. Thats probably why i pay more attention to calorie counts and the like, it was a big thing in playing football (the american version anyway). Conditioning coaches always stayed on your back about stuff like that. Of course my soccer coaches were always on me to lose muscle content! I've seen one coach argue with another one about it! LOL! Of course when i ran into my soon to be D&D croonies, i quickly shed my "all american persona" (and physique, little by little) and became the proverbial super geek! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I can tell you though, its a lot easier to increase your intake of foods by double, not so easy to stop doing it once your use to it.After i graduated and started real life, i slowly became a wide-body. Still muscular and big, but adding on about 20-45 lbs. I wavered back and forth for years and so did my workouts. My worse was about 285 (6'3"). I've made a decent recovery in the last year or so. You see, i did the math and quit drinking soda. I found out that even the fast food (sans soda) wasn't nearly as bad as the actual soda.  Its still not great for you, but in small doses, its not that bad. But the soda is not only huge in calories, but its like cigarettes in that it makes you want to drink more and more! I could eat only once or twice a day, but I got to the point where i was drinking 3-5 20-24 oz's a day ( i may have been bordering on diabetes at that point. I know 3 guys, including one at work that does have diabetes and had the same situation). Most of the sodas rank in at 300 calories per 8oz (not per bottle. thats the sneaky math). 300 calories x 3 (24 oz bottle) x 4 = 2700 calories!! Add 2700 calories to your daily diet and see what happens. Add a half or even third and see what it does for you!! So when i cut soda (and sweetened tea which is the same thing) out of the daily "regimen" and switched to water/non sweatened tea, i was cutting 2000 +/-  calories a day. In the first 2-3 months alone i wreaked havoc on my wardrobe (which had gotten bigger and bigger). Now almost a year later i am only about 15 lbs over my playing weight (football and soccer). Although the ratio of muscle/fat is skewed in the opposite direction that it was back then. I still have work to do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Anyway, its not some huge social or psychological statement, just my personal experience and why I got fat! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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