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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kail" data-source="post: 683747" data-attributes="member: 8851">Hey out ther ezdanboy and others.  Good to see this thread still moving along so well.  Darius, don't worry about the sleep thing, I never really have slept all that much, and its worth it to me to see the exchange of ideas.  takyris:  I'll have to sort of second what was said on something to "take back" to your school.  Preasure point fighting and application of techniques are an excellent thing to re-introduce into the curriculm{SP} of a good school  There are a couple of approaches that are generally taken to applying the points, through extensive study of bunkai, or looking at movement sets, like the short techniques in kempo for application.    If your involved in the use of traditional forms/kata, the bunkai approach has the most reqards I think.  The reason being that you put some life and real reason for training in these forms back into the school.  It can also help those practiciioners who love their art, but are on the verg of burn-out get really fired up again.  I've been working with some folks who train using George Dillman as a guide on preasure point application.  The books are excellent because of the way the points are explained, both medically and in the Chinese meridians, along with the angles/method of attack for the best result.  That and they accept anyone willing to train and apply movments that are nearlly universal in martial arts.  I'd recommend his series of books on the subject of preasure point fighting and tuite, along with Pattrick MacArthy's version of the Bubishi.  Internal training in the arts, it can be an odd and confusing thing really.  In the style I started in, a branch of Okinawan Shorin Ryu, internal training wasn't not pushed on anyone.  Heck, I didn't even know if my Sensei knew anything involving such matters until after I had aquired my shodan.  Then he just sets me up with a few very simple exersizes for outside of class, saying it became more important to under stand meditation techniques and energy flow as you progressed.{BTW, never confuse/fail to differentiate between Japanese and Okinawan systems.  Despite the closeness culturally, its insulting to either parts when the differences aren't at least acknowledged}  While these exersizes helped me realise how to actively move energy within the body, kata/forms training is often acknowledged as one of the best ways to generate internal energies.  The body's own movements, especially the roll and torque of the torso moving the hara or tantian{SP} gets things really flowing, and properly done forms will really light you up.  I've previously named the Tai Chi Classics as a good starting book, containing meditation methods and a good section on energy application.  Other works on Qi Gong will give you good indications of what to do to build energy, what sort of effects diet, sleep, sexual practices and meditation will have on your training.  zdanboy, I can't leave you out sir, just can't.  If your interested in jujitsu, go for th training, it can certainly be worth investigating the ground game if nothing else.  Having at least basic knowledge of takedowns , their counters is a very good thing for a striker to have.  While I don't personally favor ground fighitng, and think that its importance has been played up by those seeking to gain fanancial benefit from it, it is a skill worth having.  Darius and all others, one more good tournament type fight to watch is the Shidokan Open.  The last few finals were held in Chicago.  Its full contact, bare fisted fighting, with throws.  No face punches or elbows to the head for the first three rounds, but kicks to the legs and head, as well as knees to the head are allowed.  Throws with follow up striking are allowed at all points during the fight.  After the third round gloves go on, something like a 6 or 8 oz. boxing glove and face contact with the fists is then allowed.  You can win by KO or points/decision.  I've never seen a point scored though as it takes what the ref considers perfect exicution of a throw and follow up to get that point.  Fighters will fight all rounds of the finals within one night, usually just a few hours for four or five fights.  I've seen some great shows of fighting spirit, all styles are welcome and there are mens and women's divisions for both black belts and under belts, though the men's black belt division is the main draw.That's it for now though.  Night folks.Kail</blockquote>

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