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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kail" data-source="post: 685977" data-attributes="member: 8851">Goodness, where to begin?  Darius, not sure when the next <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />okan tournament is, I'll see what I can dig up, but I seem to remember it being in the late summer/early fall.  And congrats on getting back into training.  I just confirmed a vacation date to make the Dillman siminar in Chicago in May, so I'm pumped on that news myself!   Takyris, the foreknuckle and middle knuckle strikes are good stuff, but you can use smaller parts of the hand and arm to activate points, using presses, rubs and grips, and the hits can be little more than a light slap once you really get on the points.  Look into working your up right application as either ground work or join manipulations along with the striking.  Lannon, as the others have said, your speaking on a subject where your only knowledge comes from a few moves, and ones that don't even begin to reflect the full scope of what the martial arts offer.  While no person familar with what happens in a fight really wants to be in one, it sometimes happens.  Bringing up the adage{SP} that "violence is never the answer" reveals a lack of experience or naivity.  You have either turned a blind eye to the ralities of the world, had very little experience in it, or have maintained an optomistic outlook despite the realities of the world we all live in.  Violence should not be the only answer available.  But there are times when it is not only the right answer, but the only answer.  Thankfully these occasions are few and far between, and most people will never be forced to come face-to-face with such an occurance.  However, since a person lives with that possible eventuality, they have two choices, accept that it's going to happen and passively particiapate in the violence, accepting willingly whatever concequences come of it, or chosing to do soemthing on a physical level.  This does not mean that anyone willing to resist has to train, but those who do train for the eventuality should not be berated because of their choses.  Those who train are more responsibile for themselves and their actions because they have a better chance of controling and altering the outcome of a situation, be it avoiding the fight through skilled verbal de-excalation, convaying the proper body language to help avoid the fight, or dealing with the threat as it occures physically.  Again I will say that those aware, or at least familar with the machanics of a fight are less likely to engage in one, or more properly less likely to engage in one lightly as they are aware of the concequences of their actions and the possible outcomes.  Training the martial arts will also allow a person involved in a fight more options on how to deal with things if they do go bad.  They don't have to go for the kill so to speak, but can use lesser levels of harm/force to control and end the situation.    Now you may believe that a pair of fights is a high number for a man who may be about twice your age, but its not rally.  I would think that, save our legtious{SP, I mean to say sue happy!} society, the number of altercations would most likely rise.  My brother in-law was beaten pretty baddly by three people who drug him unexpectedly from a parked car, used blunt weapons and then left without fear of reprisal.  At the time none of the attackers had any training, one latter worked out at a boxing gym and tried to keep his reputation up through a few stratigic beatings.  He bad mouthed a pro-kick boxer who moved to town, went to that man's workout place and tried to take him on, it didn't work.  That kind of behavior, the reckless use of fighting skill, is not condoned or excepted by any of the local martial artists.  We train very hard in high hopes that ,should all else fail, our skills will be sufficeint to meet the need to defend ourselves or someone else.  Bullies in training don't last too long as they learn its not all about whipping tail and taking names, its about some many other things.  There is the apprication of culture, of the bare honesty on the dojo floor when you can't hide behind words and false pretense, there is not space fore pride on the deck.  What you are and what you do is lain bare fore the whole world to see.  The level of trust that you can develope fore training partners, and the bounds of friendship that are often forged there are not to be taken lightly.  Three of the five best friends I have ever in my life had are fellow martial artists that I have trained with.  Each of them would, and has, dropped whatever they were doing to aid friends, myself included, at all hours of the day and night.  Motives aren't questioned, reasoning isn't asked for and explainations come of the other person is willing to offer them, because each knows the other would do like wise.  It is a cliche, but martial arts build character, through sweat, effort and mutual desire to learn.  And you may be under the impression that martial arts training leads to violence, but you'd be hard pressed to prove that in any way other than through contrived anocidal evidence.  Getting into a fight is not done because of training, statistically it could well have happened anyway.  The two most recient "fights" I've been involved in occured at work.  In both cases it was for the protection of customers and other employees that I became involved, I'm a member of management, its part of my job to put myself at risk so others don't have to.  Lastly I would strongly suggest that you pick up Spiritual Foundations of Aikido.  This work delves very well into what benefit can be gained through the martial arts.Thanks all,  Kail</blockquote>

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